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How does hunting help you mentally

No motivation?! With all these silly meaningless competitions? How many bucket deer or timberpimp kills u got under ur belt? I suck at hunting and have very limited access so I get really stressed out and it isn't fun anymore sometimes.....those silly funny things make it a little more enjoyable
 
I’m not in the same position in life as the OP, but I do feel like I have had my ins and outs of basically feeling down and/or overwhelmed in the last 5-7 years raising 2 kids. Life isn’t about me anymore and it is hard to make time for just me.

Hunting and just in general having a connection to the outdoors somehow really helps take the pressure off of me. I always feel recentered and reset when I get out somehow. If I’m not actively doing something outdoor/hunting related, listening, I am always watching or thinking about something that has to do with it and that gets me by when I don’t have the time or ability to get out and do something. Outside of my wife and kids, it’s absolutely what I live for anymore.


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Hunting is my happy place. I look forward to it all year, and that's one of the things I'm looking forward to in retirement. That and motorcycles. The solitude and focus that both activities simultaneously impose and demand are unique and highly appealing to me.

Have you considered wildlife photography? I know a few retired coppers who turned their crime scene skills to more peaceful applications. I had always kinda scoffed at artistic pursuits until I got my hands on a Nikon D90. Refurb camera bodies and lenses can be had for surprisingly little money. And the woods somehow look different if you're looking for hatching grouse or moose calves or wild apples in bloom, instead just of trails and tracks and sheds. You see more, notice more, somehow. And, once you get a portfolio going you might could generate some income from it.

The job takes a hell of a lot out of a person. I've been seeing far more suicides in the last 18 months than I can remember. Please, please, get in the woods or with a different shrink, a chaplain, a coffee buddy, whatever it takes.
Thank you for the kind words
 
As i stated before in a recent post
I suffer from severe up and down depression.
Deer are my life and i doubt i could do without it and would be lost if i could not do deer related things.
I used to golf, fish, and now I even taken a job as a cabinet maker’s helper.
These activities are ok but nothing seems to put me at peace as deer hunting and everything that has to do with it.
The last few months for some reason have been super hard for me.
Actually its been a emotional roller coaster ride for me since 2017.
The year i retired.
I just can not find my place or my purpose.
i also suffer from ptsd from my former 20 year career which was Law enforcement.
Nightmare’s, anxiety, distrustful feelings towards anyone Or most things.
Does anyone else use hunting as a comfort or a way of calming your mental health?
Also as i stated in another post that im pretty over weight and im really thinking that ive hit rock bottom.
Being super out of shape both physically and emotionally or (mentally).
I have think i just need to take it almost hour by hour day to day until hunting season.
Before i moved back to NJ I was in the woods almost every day mostly scouting.
I moved to Delaware in 2017 and love the deer hunting there, but now that i am back in South Jersey and know that the deer I want to go after are just not here or are very rare so i have lost almost all interest in doing what i am used to doing here in Jersey.
i hunted Jersey my whole life and its just ehhh lol.
Killed a ton of deer of all ages snd sizes and i am really good at it but, for some reason i have Almost no interest or motivation here to get out
I would love to hear thoughts or simmilar feelings on what im going through.
Normally I would prefer to put this all in a PM, but seeing as it could help someone else, public it is. I’ll start by saying, I don’t have all the answers. And yes I use hunting for therapy and fishing too. I’m a current LEO of about eight years. I used to work for a bustling jurisdiction where I was a detective (crime scene) in a top five murder capital per capita of the US. I have seen a lot in that time, buried several of my friends/colleagues, countless bodies in every manner of death and/or mutilation. I say this to say, this is not normal. Normal humans don’t see tons of dead people, or make life and death decisions on the regular, or run to gun fire, or any of a million other things the LE does routinely.

It’s crazy that departments to just expect their people to carry on normally when they are constantly exposed to things that are not normal. LE has a long history of shooting itself in the foot and the suck it up buttercup routine unfortunately has resulted in many people in our line of work sticking their service pistol in their mouth. Sorry mods if I get to graphic here feel free to remove.

About a year ago, I came to a smaller agency that is very progressive. It was the first time in hundreds of bodies, autopsies, or other critical incidents, that I was mandated to go to counseling. They called it debriefing. Apparently thanks to a lot of wars in the past hundred years, psychologists have learned a lot about how the human mind deals with critical incidents and we happen to have a psychiatrist on staff. At first it was called shell shock in the WW1 and WW2 Days. Now a days we call it PTSD, and more recently research has determined that PTSI leads to PTSD. What they found according to our on staff shrink is that when the body goes through intense stress the mind struggles to process the incident. Thus creating a post traumatic stress injury ptsi. When left untreated or rather avoided, the injuries build up like any other injury that hasn’t been treated. It for lack of a better term gets infected. The ptsi adds up and that’s how we get ptsd.

The remedy was to talk to the psychiatrist about the specific incidents. She found over her career of specifically helping LE that these incidents link to each other. And talking about one of them can help with another. You don’t go to war alone, you don’t deal with war alone. Talking helps to process the event and lessens it’s blow. Over time this heals. Think about it your brain is like any other part of your body and it can be injured. If you broke your leg you go get it set and casted. Brain is no different. She basically had me tell her about an incident (1 per session) and after I told her everything about that incident. She did some weird tap therapy exercises while having me try and think about the incident. I’ll be honest I found it goofy at first, but the results were amazing. At the end of the session I would have to retell the incident again. The crazy part is my memory of the incident didn’t change but my emotional baggage related to it did. I’ll tell you more when we talk.

As for purpose in retirement, I get it. Once you run with the wolves everything else seems so dull. Even then I’m considering getting out. I have started to learn it’s not so much what you do but who you do it for. Case and point, in college I met a lunch lady who sat by her cash register with her Gideon Bible and changed more lives at that lowly job then I will ever change. They even named a film festival at the college after her.

Here are some tangible things I do and I have found helpful.
Church
Talk to someone (professional) who deals with LE
Talk to someone (not professional)
Get off social medial except this forum
No news (I’m like over a year free of watching any news and it’s the best I’ve felt). I think no news is particularly helpful to LE. There is no end to the war on crime and watching the news is particularly depressing.
Bible study group
Hunting
Fishing
Saddle hunter forum
Have an actual sabbath
Etc.

Maybe this is all stuff you’ve tried. Maybe not. You can call me anytime.
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Hunting is the purest form of decompression I have ever found to enjoy. My phone is with me for safety. it’s in the pack and stays there. A Saturday hunting gives me 12 hours to reflect on what happened all week and prepare myself for what’s to come by making the sheet blank. I could sit In a tree no where near deer sign and never even see a squirrel and be completely content walking to the truck with a smile. My job is stressful. I run the show so the weight is heavy on my shoulders and sometimes the stress of it involuntarily gets passed on to my family and it’s not fair to them. But I have never come home from a day in the woods without a smile and a positive energy
 
Normally I would prefer to put this all in a PM, but seeing as it could help someone else, public it is. I’ll start by saying, I don’t have all the answers. And yes I use hunting for therapy and fishing too. I’m a current LEO of about eight years. I used to work for a bustling jurisdiction where I was a detective (crime scene) in a top five murder capital per capita of the US. I have seen a lot in that time, buried several of my friends/colleagues, countless bodies in every manner of death and/or mutilation. I say this to say, this is not normal. Normal humans don’t see dead people, or make life and death decisions on the regular, or run to gun fire, or any of a million other things the LE does routinely.

It’s crazy that departments to just expect their people to carry on normally when they are constantly exposed to things that are not normal. LE has a long history of shooting itself in the foot and the suck it up buttercup routine unfortunately has resulted in many people in our line of work sticking their service pistol in their mouth. Sorry mods if I get to graphic here feel free to remove.

About a year ago, I came to a smaller agency that is very progressive. It was the first time in hundreds of bodies, autopsies, or other critical incidents, that I was mandated to go to counseling. They called it debriefing. Apparently thanks to a lot of wars in the past hundred years, psychologists have learned a lot about how the human mind deals with critical incidents and we happen to have a psychiatrist on staff. At first it was called shell shock in the WW1 and WW2 Days. Now a days we call it PTSD, and more recently research has determined that PTSI leads to PTSD. What they found according to our on staff shrink is that when the body goes through intense stress the mind struggles to process the incident. Thus creating a post traumatic stress injury ptsi. When left untreated or rather avoided, the injuries build up like any other injury that hasn’t been treated. It for lack of a better term gets infected. The ptsi adds up and that’s how we get ptsd.

The remedy was to talk to the psychiatrist about the specific incidents. She found over her career of specifically helping LE that these incidents link to each other. And talking about one of them can help with another. You don’t go to war alone, you don’t deal with war alone. Talking helps to process the event and lessens it’s blow. Over time this heals.

As for purpose in retirement, I get it. Once you run with the wolves everything else seems so dull. Even then I’m considering getting out. But even then I have started to learn it’s not so much what you do but who you do it for. Case and point, in college I met a lunch lady who sat by her cash register with her Gideon Bible and changed more lives at that lowly job then I will ever change. They even named a film festival at the college after her.

Here are some tangible things I do and I have found helpful.
Church
Talk to someone (professional) who deals with LE
Talk to someone (not professional)
Get off social medial except this forum
No news (I’m like over a year free of watching any news and it’s the best I’ve felt). I think no news is particularly helpful to LE. There is no end to the war on crime and watching the news is particularly depressing.
Bible study group
Hunting
Fishing
Saddle hunter forum
Have an actual sabbath
Etc.

Maybe this is all stuff you’ve tried. Maybe not. You can call me anytime.
D
Thank you sir and appreciate the info and kind words.
I posted this also so that it may gelp someone else nit feel like ive been feeling the last 5-6 years.
We will definitely get to chat soon and take some of your advice. Especially watching the news lol its awful
 
Thank you sir and appreciate the info and kind words.
I posted this also so that it may gelp someone else nit feel like ive been feeling the last 5-6 years.
We will definitely get to chat soon and take some of your advice. Especially watching the news lol its awful
Absolutely. Not watching news felt odd at first. Then after about a week I started to notice a change. In our lives we each have two circles. A circle of influence, aka things we can change. And a circle of concern, aka things we know about but cannot change.

A healthy mind tends to have the circles near the same size, with the circle of concern being slightly larger. When we especially as LEOs aka fixers of problems look at the news it shows us tons of problems we can’t do anything about. Our circle of concern enlarges and it stresses us out.

I was in a bad place for a while but I have experienced a ton of healing the last year and change. I’m in a much better place mentally and my family has noticed the difference.
 
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@Robert loper

The sleep, diet information mentioned before is huge. Get your butt moving daily. Watch Rocky followed by Rocky II and all the way up to where Apollo dies. Then get your butt moving even more. Crawl, Walk, Run. Find a trainer or training partner and get to a gym.
If you have the funds, find a hunt in another state that is challenging. This will give you a goal to set and a timeline. Like a western hunt where you walk further than normal or get a little more uncomfortable than normal. If you a good instructor, find a youth group and volunteer teaching others.
I also agree on getting rid of screen staring social media except this site. I have zero social media except this site and love it. If you need help, PM me. There are a lot of people like you. Same mindset. Same ideas.
Yes hunting is a great place to go for clearing headspace. Are you able to move anywhere from south Jersey or are you there for good?
 
@Robert loper

The sleep, diet information mentioned before is huge. Get your butt moving daily. Watch Rocky followed by Rocky II and all the way up to where Apollo dies. Then get your butt moving even more. Crawl, Walk, Run. Find a trainer or training partner and get to a gym.
If you have the funds, find a hunt in another state that is challenging. This will give you a goal to set and a timeline. Like a western hunt where you walk further than normal or get a little more uncomfortable than normal. If you a good instructor, find a youth group and volunteer teaching others.
I also agree on getting rid of screen staring social media except this site. I have zero social media except this site and love it. If you need help, PM me. There are a lot of people like you. Same mindset. Same ideas.
Yes hunting is a great place to go for clearing headspace. Are you able to move anywhere from south Jersey or are you there for good?
All good suggestions. If you are looking for the most addicting hardest hunting, turn to traditional archery. There’s so much to do when not hunting it’s retarded.
 
My 2 cents...
CBT helps a lot. Its a lot of work in the beginning but it helps rewire the way you think. I been in some bad places mentally. locked my guns away at family's house at one point. Drugs dont help much in the long run. you gotta put the work in. Hard in the beginning cuz u dont wanna do anything. Quit drinking if you havent yet and find people to talk to if you dont already. Men like to act like we dont need to talk about stuff and nothing can hurt us because thats what we grew up hearing. Find a group. Find a church. anything helps. Covid lockdown kinda stuff really screwed people up mentally more than the virus did physically
X2. CBT can be a great help. Here is a great book to get started.
 

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@Robert loper

The sleep, diet information mentioned before is huge. Get your butt moving daily. Watch Rocky followed by Rocky II and all the way up to where Apollo dies. Then get your butt moving even more. Crawl, Walk, Run. Find a trainer or training partner and get to a gym.
If you have the funds, find a hunt in another state that is challenging. This will give you a goal to set and a timeline. Like a western hunt where you walk further than normal or get a little more uncomfortable than normal. If you a good instructor, find a youth group and volunteer teaching others.
I also agree on getting rid of screen staring social media except this site. I have zero social media except this site and love it. If you need help, PM me. There are a lot of people like you. Same mindset. Same ideas.
Yes hunting is a great place to go for clearing headspace. Are you able to move anywhere from south Jersey or are you there for good?
I may move back to Delaware im not decided yet
 
All good suggestions. If you are looking for the most addicting hardest hunting, turn to traditional archery. There’s so much to do when not hunting it’s retarded.
I have tried trad bows and have fallen in love with it. Working on getting someone in my srea to help me learn the correct way.
im a sort of snap shooter. Im decent close but all ove the place farther back.
i think its a bit of the yips ( like golfers get putting)
 
I have tried trad bows and have fallen in love with it. Working on getting someone in my srea to help me learn the correct way.
im a sort of snap shooter. Im decent close but all ove the place farther back.
i think its a bit of the yips ( like golfers get putting)
There is quite a bit you can read on the matter or watch. Clay Hayes has some amazing suggestions. Masters of the bare bow etc. I’m trad only and have been most of my life.
 
Hunting help me deal with my anger issue. Unlike other servicemembers, I started developing problems after I left the Army. I met my wife around the time period that I needed to decide if I'm getting out or staying the full 20+ years. My wife wanted a big family and I could provide better for the family in the civilian world. I did not handle returning to civilian life very well and the stress got to me. Also in secret I was really resentful of my wife because I wanted to stay in the Army, having to write the memo turning down the promotion that I worked really hard to get was one of the most painful thing in my life. But we talk about it a lot more now, I try to tell her my feeling as best as I can and it helps. Military life was actually very enjoyable and compatible with my personality. The strict code of conduct, the clear directions, set goals for the future, the routine schedule, the comrades, everything about it provide a shelter from a lot of types of stress that I never experienced before.

But being in the wood offer a different set of happiness and break from the world that I need once a while. The joy of playing with your kids or going to dance recitals is priceless. I love my family and spending time with them is always the most important thing to me. But sometime you just need those moments that you have complete control over your soul. Don't think about how to pay for their colleges, how much saving you have if you lost your job, how many days until you need to mow the lawn again, etc...

Once the kids are more developed, I'm thinking about learning how to make traditional bows. @Robert loper something you might want to consider?
 
this is why scouting can be more fun than hunting at times....just exploring without any pressure or concern with making noise, etc.
100%.
I am scouting year round..
Instead taking my dog for walk in town, am always in woods scouting. Forest is great place to unwind after long work day.

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I have tried trad bows and have fallen in love with it. Working on getting someone in my srea to help me learn the correct way.
im a sort of snap shooter. Im decent close but all ove the place farther back.
i think its a bit of the yips ( like golfers get putting)
Joel Turner's course might be really good for you. It for sure will help the traditional archery side but might very well cross over to other aspects of life for you. The focus is on controlling your mind rather than letting your body operate on autopilot.
 
In answer to your question, I grew up in the outdoors. What I get is a sense of peace, and I feel closer to God. It's reached the point now, where with all the craziness going on in the world, I need to be in the woods either hunting or scouting at least once a week to help maintain my wellbeing.

I wish the best for you.
 
I'm not qualified to make recommendations on how to deal with the depression and PTSD issues. I'm sure we all have some degree of this in our lives and we all have different coping methods. I know I am most at peace when I'm out in the woods and deer hunting has always been a necessity for my sanity.

I must admit though I went through a period where it was starting to feel a little like I was just going through the motions. I had been hunting the same areas using a climber for decades. I was definitely still mobile hunting but I was limited a bit in accessible trees so I found myself gravitating back to the same 20 trees throughout the year. Add to that, I hunt in northern lower Michigan (probably a bit similar to your situation in New Jersey) where "trophy" bucks are extremely few and far between and hunting pressure is high. I was peaked out in the quest for bigger and better bucks at the 120" limit. By the end of the season I would find myself so stressed at my lack of progress toward killing bigger deer that it was taxing some of my enjoyment.

Then I discovered saddle hunting. For me (individual mileages my vary :)), the new climbing methods, gear (I know new gear doesn't kill deer but it can refresh the experience) and elevated access to areas I couldn't hunt with a climber really helped rejuvenate my hunting experiences and I find myself approaching the hunt with a renewed sense of anticipation. Add to that some advice from a member here who made a comment in a post that really struck home with me. Essentially he said "Enjoy your season. Don't let the things that are outside of your control (weather, pressure, activity, time, etc.) get you down when they don't go your way. Remember you're doing the activity you enjoy the most and feel blessed by that. Treat the challenges exactly as they are, challenges to make you a better hunter and person." I took those words to heart and am now find myself in a much better state of mind during the season.

As far as the limitation on bigger bucks in my local areas I just try to find the biggest one around and do my best to get on him. That's not to say that I won't take another decent opportunity if it presents itself but my primary goal every year is to pick a buck and target him. If it works out . . . awesome. If it doesn't, that's okay too. Either way I get to enjoy my season.
 
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