Hunting in cancer alley

[Dmathews87]

I can tell you one thing, if New Orleans was a part of Texas, it would be run far better!

give us all the taco food trucks and you can have new orleans. id say thats fair.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Hey wait, while ya'll are at it, if Texas will take New Orleans and Baton Rouge, throw in Jackson MS as a freebie...

 

[The_Fit_Ness_Monster]

Hey wait, while ya'll are at it, if Texas will take New Orleans and Baton Rouge, throw in Jackson MS as a freebie...

Now you’re asking for way too much lol

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Now you’re asking for way too much lol

They wouldn't have to worry about maintaining the running water...since they don't have it.

 

[casts_by_fly]

I believe lead oxidized pretty rapidly in the ground or exposed to air and forms a patina or shell which should help mitigate exposure. You might do more damage trying to dig it out than leave it be. Sort of like with asbestos tiles. If they are on the house no big deal, but go remove them and break them up and breathe the dust, not good.

You're not entirely wrong. Straight lead in its oxidized form (the dark grey you'd see of fishing sinkers) is pretty stable as a compound and doesn't dissolve into much. Acid rain or acidic soil will dissolve some of the oxidation over time though so each situtation is different.

Fyi I’ve read a number of seemingly credible papers that show glyphosate and its degradation product AMPA are more pervasive then we arelead to believe, even in air and rain water.

And I should also correct my comments above on the halflife. NIH shows data from 2 to 91 days with 47 being the nominal accepted working half life. That said, glyphosate has been shown across multiple studies and multiple countries to not be a carcinogen itself, nor is AMPA.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

I do quite a bit of casting, so lead is something I have looked in to. You can get lead poisoning from ingestion (why they say no eating or drinking while casting) and from inhalation. Now inhalation can be fine particulate like dust or lead vapor. Working outside with a fan minimizes lead dust exposure and lead vapor (lead steam) is not an issue because the melter I use only goes to 850 degrees F. You have to boil something to get steam and lead boils at about 3200 F.

My casting mentor told me that when he was young college professor, he would spend just about every evening is a small closed room casting and smoking his pipe. He said the rood would be so thick with smoke you could hardly see. After a couple of years of this he thought to get his blood check for lead levels, and they were normal. He was surprised.

That said, I treat it with a good deal of respect, and I also remove and wash any clothes I wear immediately.

 

[hokiehunter373]

You've focused on eating the meat and if that will be harmful for you while also saying you imagine most of the harm living around the area comes from air pollution. What do you think you'll be breathing while you're hunting? How many hunts does it usually take for you to kill your target? How many hours do you spend on each hunt? I feel like the fact that you're thinking it could be problematic, enough so that you came to post here, is probably all the answer you need. I think I'd really struggle to enjoy my hunts if the entire time I was in the field I was thinking about what kind of air I was inhaling.

 

[10essee]

My hometown in East Tn has a nuclear fuel plant that in the early days was virtually unregulated dumping of waste water in the local water system. There is so much cancer there for the number of residents it’s mind blowing. Most of the older people that grew up in the 40’s and 50’s have either passed or been diagnosed with it. I have also lost a lot of friends that I grew up with in the 80’s to some form cancer. Brain tumors seem to be the most prevalent of the people I have directly been affected by. I keep a real close check on myself to ensure I get to be around for my wife and son for as long as possible. If it’s hereditary then it is what it is.

 

[Swampfox]

Honestly I’d be more worried with the seafood being contaminated more so than deer.
Where are New Orleans wastewater discharge pumps located? Where does Orleans parish get their drinking water from? Where does the local Oysters come from? What about the landfill in New Orleans east? Where does the leachate go? I can promise you it’s not contained strictly to within that site.

There’s lots to be concerned with. If the litter on the roads doesn’t concern people, they surely don’t care what goes into the ground or waterways. I’ve seen a thing or two and it’s disturbing as to what is swept under the rug(soil in this case).



If you want you could read about Devils Swamp in East Baton Rouge Parish and see the warnings of the Benzene contaminations in the soil from plants. It’s not close to the areas you are talking about but you may find it useful in some context of this discussion. I surely wouldn’t eat a crawfish from there.


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[Weldabeast]

I've heard they put chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay

 

[LAKY]

Here's a scary tool for different concerns like this across the country. Use the map to compare your location to the state or country. https://www.epa.gov/ejscreen

 

[The_Fit_Ness_Monster]

Here's a scary tool for different concerns like this across the country. Use the map to compare your location to the state or country. https://www.epa.gov/ejscreen

Niiice I just checked my area and farrr below the national levels across the board. The zip code I entered there’s only 48 households judging by that metric I’d say people are the problem, when it comes to people less is more lol

 

[10essee]

Here's a scary tool for different concerns like this across the country. Use the map to compare your location to the state or country. https://www.epa.gov/ejscreen

I just looked at my hometown on there and used the proximity to hazardous waste layer and it said the 52% of the residents were within the “proximity “ of hazardous material. Damn. I moved away 25 years ago but makes me wonder if even that was too late.

Edit. If I was reading the information correctly.

 

[LAKY]

 

[MattMan81]

Gelman dumped a bunch of waste in the ground years ago outside of Ann arbor. They want them to clean it up. But they won't. They say the State gave them the okay and regulated it. It's all slowly moving towards the underground water shed that moves towards the great lakes. Maybe it's to late or no one wants to pay. But hey. The government has better things to spend our money on. Just another example.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Looks like we may need to move. When is that Mars colony supposed to be done?

 

[Nosaj]

There were some studies done on deer in New Hampshire and they found cadmium and PFAS in deer liver but not in the muscle. They felt nasties were only found in the liver due to it being the bodies filter.

If you are in an area with high levels of pollution I would stay away from the livers as they probably concentrate other chemicals/elements as well.

Deer Meat Safety Precautions

www.wildlife.nh.gov

 

[10essee]

There’s a quota only hunt in Tn at Oakridge Reservation that every deer is checked for radiation contamination. If your deer is over an acceptable limit it is seized and destroyed. The hunter doesn’t get to keep anything from it. No antlers, nada. I’m not sure if they issue a new permit to the hunter or not. I was never lucky enough to get the permit when I lived there.

 

[mschultz373]

Interesting, I just ate my first bit of venison liver this morning and loved it. That's a shame it may be the most contaminated part... i was hoping venison liver would be like grass-fed beef liver, full of minerals and vitamins. it was from a yearling button buck.

 

[Cajunyankee]

I hunted Belle Chasse Naval Air station for several years and never saw anything that concerned me.