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Importing into Canada (Duties and fees) Question

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Leadpipefill

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Hello all,
I searched the forums and wasn't able to find a solid answer so I'm asking here.

Did you pay duties when you ordered your saddles? A few people have said they didn't pay duties because some manufacturers make their products in the USA, and trade agreements allow for open trade(?)

Other people said they paid not only taxes, but duties and brokerage fees as well.

Anyone recently order one?



Thanks in advance.
 
I bought a Boyd’s stock. Made in the USA. Retail was around $240 USD. The cost in the door including about $50 in duty, shipping and brokerage was $500+ CDN.

So for saddle hunting I use a fleece saddle and rock climbing harness.


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I didn't, pay duty for mine but that was a few years back and I know people since then have had to. And sometimes its outrageous. Like over 50% of the value. Don't know what their rules are but on the surface it appears willy nilly.
 
It is hit and miss. HST. Plus brokerage fees are common. Duty is less common

$300 US becomes $405 cdn exchange. Plus $52 HST plus brokerage and handling often exceeds $500. And if it is not duty free you can add that on

If our prime minister would build a few pipelines our dollar would rise and it would all be cheaper
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So I spoke with someone in my building (Federal government building) and asked about this.
He said, based on his knowledge, if something wears the badge of "Made in the USA" you shouldn't have to pay duty on it unless it falls under certain categories (alcohol, tobacco product, among other things).

Apparently the list can be found online somewhere.

As far as he was concerned, a saddle would fall under sports equipment.

He said you should only have to pay HST when it enters the country, before it makes it to the shipping company on this side of the border, call them and say you will self clear the order.

This will involve you going to a CBSA office (there are a bunch around the southern part of Ontario (where I am from)), and all you'll do there is pay the taxes. Pearson in Toronto has a massive office and chances are the package is there anyways.

Once the package has been "cleared" you can send the paperwork to Fedex, UPS, or whoever is shipping the product.
THIS WILL SAVE YOU THE BROKERAGE FEES
Which on a product this size would be about $80.00

Once cleared they can release the package and it should ship like any old thing would.

I still would like to hear from someone who recently had one imported into Canada and whether they paid the duty or not.



Thanks,
 
Leadpipefill said:
So I spoke with someone in my building (Federal government building) and asked about this.
He said, based on his knowledge, if something wears the badge of "Made in the USA" you shouldn't have to pay duty on it unless it falls under certain categories (alcohol, tobacco product, among other things).

Apparently the list can be found online somewhere.

As far as he was concerned, a saddle would fall under sports equipment.

He said you should only have to pay HST when it enters the country, before it makes it to the shipping company on this side of the border, call them and say you will self clear the order.

This will involve you going to a CBSA office (there are a bunch around the southern part of Ontario (where I am from)), and all you'll do there is pay the taxes. Pearson in Toronto has a massive office and chances are the package is there anyways.

Once the package has been "cleared" you can send the paperwork to Fedex, UPS, or whoever is shipping the product.
THIS WILL SAVE YOU THE BROKERAGE FEES
Which on a product this size would be about $80.00

Once cleared they can release the package and it should ship like any old thing would.

I still would like to hear from someone who recently had one imported into Canada and whether they paid the duty or not.



Thanks,
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Sounds correct. Drive to the border and pick it up. Might be less hassle


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Probably, but I believe there are certain rules about how long you've been over the border and what you're entitled to bring back with you.
 
Yup 48 hours. $750. Maybe $800 now not positive

Less than 48 hours. $200 per person

Duty and tax free
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It’s not worth it. We went to Buffalo for a shopping trip and stayed overnight. You have to stay at least 24 hours to get the $200 CDN allowance.

Add in the cost of the hotel and gas and food and it wiped out anything saved on purchases by a huge margin.

A lot of stuff I found was the same numerical price as here in Canada... so a jacket that $50 CDN was $50 USD..so 30% more! Few things were cheaper after the exchange.

Now if there was a store that carried several saddle models that I could try out then it would be worth making a trip.


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robstewart said:
It’s not worth it. We went to Buffalo for a shopping trip and stayed overnight. You have to stay at least 24 hours to get the $200 CDN allowance.

Add in the cost of the hotel and gas and food and it wiped out anything saved on purchases by a huge margin.

A lot of stuff I found was the same numerical price as here in Canada... so a jacket that $50 CDN was $50 USD..so 30% more! Few things were cheaper after the exchange.

Now if there was a store that carried several saddle models that I could try out then it would be worth making a trip.


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Wow that's a good point!It's too bad not one shop in Canada sells the products.
 
Leadpipefill said:
Wow that's a good point!It's too bad not one shop in Canada sells the products.
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I was in talking to the owner at my local mom and pop and they don’t seem to a) know *** saddle hunting is and b) want to get involved.

When I was in Niagara Falls NY I spotted a little archery shop so I popped in and asked. He had a saddle that was like 25 years old that he couldn’t sell and wasn’t interested in getting into it. In fact he wanted some crazy price for the one he had so I passed. (It looked like a bunch of seatbelt size straps)

I think the issue for the Canadian side is the cost of getting it all in for a small store, and to make a profit, just isn’t there.

I would love to see a saddle maker in the US get onto Bass Pro shelves. That would probably really cause the market to kick off and that could only be good for consumers as long as companies can grow fast enough to keep up.


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I'm in SW Ontario Canada. I'm an hour away from the border. You can have items shipped to SCC Parcel pickup for $5 per package. Sometimes I coordinate package deliveries with trips into the USA and pickup my stuff duty and tax free. You can get creative, for example order your saddle seperate from the accesories and then put all the accessories with the saddle and package price the "kit" as just the saddle price.
 
stmarcink said:
I'm in SW Ontario Canada. I'm an hour away from the border. You can have items shipped to SCC Parcel pickup for $5 per package. Sometimes I coordinate package deliveries with trips into the USA and pickup my stuff duty and tax free. You can get creative, for example order your saddle seperate from the accesories and then put all the accessories with the saddle and package price the "kit" as just the saddle price.
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I have done that but it is a five hour round trip including time on the bridge at Sarnia plus gas.
I only do it if I plan to drive through Port Huron

I have wondered about distributing product as a middle man. But I am not sure it is worth it. Inventory returns and not much margin.
Complaints, fail to pay, lost in the Mail, effort, time and no fun.

Call it?

@DanO Canada. Nice home business for someone with a spouse at home. Maybe it would grow fast.

Carry Tethrd or New Tribes products. Hickory creek bows
JX 3 hybrid. Ropes. Platforms. Steps. First lite Doyle’s hoist
Etc


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robstewart said:
I was in talking to the owner at my local mom and pop and they don’t seem to a) know *** saddle hunting is and b) want to get involved.

When I was in Niagara Falls NY I spotted a little archery shop so I popped in and asked. He had a saddle that was like 25 years old that he couldn’t sell and wasn’t interested in getting into it. In fact he wanted some crazy price for the one he had so I passed. (It looked like a bunch of seatbelt size straps)

I think the issue for the Canadian side is the cost of getting it all in for a small store, and to make a profit, just isn’t there.

I would love to see a saddle maker in the US get onto Bass Pro shelves. That would probably really cause the market to kick off and that could only be good for consumers as long as companies can grow fast enough to keep up.


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I may ask a bigger hunting shop to see what they think. They are already one of the few hawk helium reps in Canada so it shows they're willing to stock products other people won't.
 
How about separating Quebec into its own Country and the rest of the provinces become States.
 
Ontariofarmer said:
You would not want us. Too many gun hating socialist voters here. Not me though

Not politics Red. A joke but true


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I’d go for the 2A if we could get the US to get on the universal free healthcare bandwagon lol


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