Is a prussic knot for a tree tether safe?

[cartman]

After posting the comparison picture, I came to the same conclusion, being fairly simple and lacking any sharp bends, it seems to be reliable as far as grabbing. Pretty sure it is new, I called it the cartman, but you should be the one to name it.

Since you actually discovered I didn't tie a distel hitch, we are going to go with the cartman. X D

 

[doriangable]

They have their place. I like using a Prusik on my adjustable bridge. I really don't adjust my bridge that often. I adjust my tether much more and the Distel hitch seems to not get completely locked up where I have to take all the weight off of it to adjust it like the Prusik.
I also use a prusik on my linesman belt.

Youre right. They do have their place. I’m not an adjustable bridge kinda guy so I didn’t even think of it but yes, that would be a good application for it. Anything that gets moved more often, their is better options I think.

 

[Brocky]

The cartman it is, more testing with less wraps made a very nicely performing hitch! This one is a winner, don’t forget to update your resume to include friction hitch inventor.

 

[caddis75]

There is a lot of ways to do a diy tender.
The tender is not load bearing so you can kinda use whatever you want.
I am using some paracord with two loops in it.

I am planning on ordering a couple of these.

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Thanks. I noticed that the tenders work better on my prusik knot than my distal knot. Unsure why.

 

[doriangable]

Thanks. I noticed that the tenders work better on my prusik knot than my distal knot. Unsure why.

What host rope and what hitch cord are you using?

 

[cartman]

The cartman it is, more testing with less wraps made a very nicely performing hitch! This one is a winner, don’t forget to update your resume to include friction hitch inventor.

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I have been searching and I cannot find a friction hitch that is identical to what I tied.

Knut and Cornell Hitch are very close but not exact.
VT and XT are also close but different towards where the tag ends.

Please someone tell me that this knot exists. I am having a hard time believing that I came up with this.

 

[Brocky]

I’ve got a fairly large collection of hitches, not knots, probably around two hundred, about two to three dozen are ones I came up with. I draw each hitch on a card so it can be tied just looking at the picture, here are about a hundred and seventy completed cards, need to finish the rest, and add yours to it.

 

[caddis75]

What host rope and what hitch cord are you using?

Trophyline tether and prusik rope

 

[doriangable]

Trophyline tether and prusik rope

Dont really know then, that should be just fine. I’ve always had Prusiks lock up on my over any of the others. A Swabisch is basically an offset Prusik. The Distel is most a Swabisch with the reversed wrap on the bottom. And that broke free better for me then the Swabisch and Prusik. Then I went to the Michoacán and that works better for me then both do those. You might want to try that

 

[caddis75]

Dont really know then, that should be just fine. I’ve always had Prusiks lock up on my over any of the others. A Swabisch is basically an offset Prusik. The Distel is most a Swabisch with the reversed wrap on the bottom. And that broke free better for me then the Swabisch and Prusik. Then I went to the Michoacán and that works better for me then both do those. You might want to try that

On my lunch break, I tested out part of my set up: one stick with an aider. I noticed the 5/16 inch amsteel tender worked way better than the 3mm utility line on the distal hitch. I bet my neighbor was wondering what the hell I was doing though as I was hanging about 6 feet up in a tree. I didn't fall and my stick held, so that is a win!

 

[MIBowhunter82]

Please someone tell me that this knot exists. I am having a hard time believing that I came up with this.

There are many knots used today that were “discovered” because someone tied and currently used knot incorrectly.

 

[doriangable]

On my lunch break, I tested out part of my set up: one stick with an aider. I noticed the 5/16 inch amsteel tender worked way better than the 3mm utility line on the distal hitch. I bet my neighbor was wondering what the hell I was doing though as I was hanging about 6 feet up in a tree. I didn't fall and my stick held, so that is a win!

Well that’s all you need then. Process of elimination. I went to Lowe’s and got a metal ring and tied it to a piece of paracord and to the carabiner and it works well. Don’t really know what it’s called but it’s in the hardware section and super cheap and that worked well for me before I bought a Genesis tender.

 

[caddis75]

Well that’s all you need then. Process of elimination. I went to Lowe’s and got a metal ring and tied it to a piece of paracord and to the carabiner and it works well. Don’t really know what it’s called but it’s in the hardware section and super cheap and that worked well for me before I bought a Genesis tender.

I played with a small keychain carabiner and hitched it to my carabiner. For some reason, the prussik on my lineman's won't budge using one hand. It works with the 5/16 amsteel only so far. I need to buy more, but no idea where I can get some.

 

[Brocky]

I played with a small keychain carabiner and hitched it to my carabiner. For some reason, the prussik on my lineman's won't budge using one hand. It works with the 5/16 amsteel only so far. I need to buy more, but no idea where I can get some.

Fisheriessupply.com has the Amsteel as well as other brands of dyneema.

 

[doriangable]

I played with a small keychain carabiner and hitched it to my carabiner. For some reason, the prussik on my lineman's won't budge using one hand. It works with the 5/16 amsteel only so far. I need to buy more, but no idea where I can get some.

Last time I bought some it was from Go2Marine.com. Don’t know the availability right now though.

 

[paul.daniel.stanley]

Yeah I see what I did. Its almost identical to a Distel Hitch but I have the loop that goes from the top of the coil to the bottom with 1 extra twist.
I tested it again and it is performing great! However I recommend that everyone use the proper method for tying a Distel Hitch.
I am in no way qualified to be inventing friction knots and one created from a mistake should not be trusted.

I'm glad it worked and you are still with us.

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[paul.daniel.stanley]

I’ve got a fairly large collection of hitches, not knots, probably around two hundred, about two to three dozen are ones I came up with. I draw each hitch on a card so it can be tied just looking at the picture, here are about a hundred and seventy completed cards, need to finish the rest, and add yours to it.
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That's impressive, man! Cool stuff.

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[GetHomeSafe]

Yes the prusik would be safe on a tether or a lineman rope. A prusik needs a tender and is difficult to slide post loading. Better would be a Michoacan hitch. Easy to tie, self tending, a few variations depending upon how much grap it takes to make it work. I tied a 3x1. The hitch is self tending, adjusts easy post load, grabs quickly. You tie it with a cord not a continuous loop like a prusik. you can terminate the ends with a figure 8 on a bight. and put a carabiner through the loops. I have two 8.5' Sterling Oplux 8mm ropes with 6" sewn eyes. I girth hitch them both on my left lineman loop. Easy to deal with limbs with 2 lineman ropes. At height the unused one comes off the lineman loop and is girth hitched to the tree as a tether. The two are identical. I tied my hitches with Sterling TRC 6mm. It took me 5' of TRC to tie the Michoacan and the two figure 8s on bights to form one hitch. ://jimknowsknots.blogspot.com/2012/01/michoacan-knot.html