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Kind Of A Lopsided Comparison "Saddle vs Stand a real world mobile comparison"

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Nutterbuster said:
Slightly off topic, but last year I cooked up an idea. A terrible, awful idea...

Who's in for a no-gear challenge? No gear allowed that doesn't fit in your pants or jacket pockets with the exception of your weapon. No saddle, no climber, no $250 chair. No presets! For extra points you could do it with nothing but a 2 wheel drive car for access and "civvy clothes". Could compete for the biggest buck and the highest head count.

How much of an edge IS all this stuff anyway?
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I like this idea. The problem is I like to think about and feel like I'm preparing for season all year. It a matter of too much tinkering with a system once you run out of scouting, prep, and shed hunting.
 
Nutterbuster said:
Slightly off topic, but last year I cooked up an idea. A terrible, awful idea...

Who's in for a no-gear challenge? No gear allowed that doesn't fit in your pants or jacket pockets with the exception of your weapon. No saddle, no climber, no $250 chair. No presets! For extra points you could do it with nothing but a 2 wheel drive car for access and "civvy clothes". Could compete for the biggest buck and the highest head count.

How much of an edge IS all this stuff anyway?
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Sounds mostly like THP 2020 season
 
Nutterbuster said:
Slightly off topic, but last year I cooked up an idea. A terrible, awful idea...

Who's in for a no-gear challenge? No gear allowed that doesn't fit in your pants or jacket pockets with the exception of your weapon. No saddle, no climber, no $250 chair. No presets! For extra points you could do it with nothing but a 2 wheel drive car for access and "civvy clothes". Could compete for the biggest buck and the highest head count.

How much of an edge IS all this stuff anyway?
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Funny you say that. I killed my second doe this year with a longbow, in tan pants and a hooded sweatshirt, on my knees next to a sapling, from the ground. I had a flashlight and some tp in my pockets.

I had another close encounter standing in a creek in non-waterproof boots, waiting for a clear shot on a nice buck that never materialized. All I had in my pockets that evening a flashlight and the same tp...unused of course.

I'll take that challenge any day. I love hunting off the ground without all the gear. I never feel at a disadvantage.
 
Arrowsquirrel said:
I like this idea. The problem is I like to think about and feel like I'm preparing for season all year. It a matter of too much tinkering with a system once you run out of scouting, prep, and shed hunting.
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But think of the possibilities if you took that input and diverted it from tinkering to scouting!

Everybody likes to say it's about the scouting and the skill, and not stuff. But we sure are addicted to the stuff.
 
Nutterbuster said:
Slightly off topic, but last year I cooked up an idea. A terrible, awful idea...

Who's in for a no-gear challenge? No gear allowed that doesn't fit in your pants or jacket pockets with the exception of your weapon. No saddle, no climber, no $250 chair. No presets! For extra points you could do it with nothing but a 2 wheel drive car for access and "civvy clothes". Could compete for the biggest buck and the highest head count.

How much of an edge IS all this stuff anyway?
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I like it.
Ground pound challenge.
I wouldn't devote my whole season to it. But could see my self spending a few hunts going a out it that way.
 
I feel like saddles vs hang ons is just another version of Mac vs PC or Android vs iPhone. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. I have a Macbook Pro, a Windows desktop, and an Android phone. You can have a climber, a saddle, a ladder stand, a hang on, and even a $5 bucket. I think people get caught up in being on team saddle or team hang on. Use whatever works best for you for the given situation. I recently picked up a cheap crossbow and a leafy suit and think I'm going to try more ground hunting. I think one of my issues is I just hate sitting still in a stand or saddle. On the ground I can just move around as needed.
Nutterbuster said:
Slightly off topic, but last year I cooked up an idea. A terrible, awful idea...

Who's in for a no-gear challenge? No gear allowed that doesn't fit in your pants or jacket pockets with the exception of your weapon. No saddle, no climber, no $250 chair. No presets! For extra points you could do it with nothing but a 2 wheel drive car for access and "civvy clothes". Could compete for the biggest buck and the highest head count.

How much of an edge IS all this stuff anyway?
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I'm down.
 
God that stand made a lot of noise when he was putting it up around the 3 min mark. These stands just ring compared to sandcast.
 
tailgunner said:
im not even an alright hunter thats how i got into this saddle mess
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Ill admit I suck at hunting. If it wasent for the old farm I get to hunt, I'd be eating vegan. But I enjoy the thrill of the chase. The saddle is fun. But some says it would be nice to just take a walk and find a place to sit down. @Nutterbuster maybe you should open a new thread for this?
 
I have two toddlers so I never seem to have the time to dial in my system fully, but I’m ‘decent’ with my JX3 or Recon. For a couple seasons I have a mental competition with myself to not have a Summit equipped buddy texting me way before I’m set up, or waiting for me on the trail after our hunt. Alas, he’s usually faster and wrangles less ropes. And in our group of friends the fellas that park their butts in Summits, sometimes at the same spot for six straight hunts, don’t do too bad! Overall I prefer saddle setups, but do think the advantage over hang ons or climbers is slightly overblown, especially in tall straight timber territory. Take your pick of climbing method you prefer, but our best tools continue to be critical thinking, picking the right section of woods, and proficiency with chosen weapon. Edit: Oh, and TIME in the woods.

Edit: some of last seasons posts convinced me to work more from the ground as well, and Im pretty much convinced a commitment to that might even increase success rate vs any other method.
 
MIbowhunter49 said:
God that stand made a lot of noise when he was putting it up around the 3 min mark. These stands just ring compared to sandcast.
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im always shocked how much noise people get away with.i dont know if its just different out here or what.but the sound of your zipper wigling when you walk would alert a blacktail deer
 
All i hunt (in Nebraska) is leaning trees...there are no straight river bottom cottonwoods where i go. Two seasons in a saddle and no problems (unless its a hard leaner and its blowing 20-30). Loved my Assault and sticks, shot my biggest buck out of it, in a leaning tree at that. But as things get lighter and more efficient, can’t see myself going back to stands. But...if you call and say”bring your .308 and come sit in a condo over the food plot and shoot some does”, I’m there in a second!! Its hunting! last season i killed my buck at ten yards-on the ground, wearing my saddle while walking in to hang.
 
MattMan81 said:
Ill admit I suck at hunting. If it wasent for the old farm I get to hunt, I'd be eating vegan. But I enjoy the thrill of the chase. The saddle is fun. But some says it would be nice to just take a walk and find a place to sit down. @Nutterbuster maybe you should open a new thread for this?
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just sitting over a bench is how my mom harvest most of her bucks ...same bench in the mountain too.now that i think about it why havent i sat there.its only 200 yards below the picture of my son i posted
 
Nutterbuster said:
But think of the possibilities if you took that input and diverted it from tinkering to scouting!

Everybody likes to say it's about the scouting and the skill, and not stuff. But we sure are addicted to the stuff.
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I don't disagree that killing deer isn't about tinkering with stuff but my problem is access to ground. I have all the local public memorized and have shed hunted everything around me at least twice even though it's a little early here. I need to be putting my time into finding some local private (traveling to hunt isn't an option at my place in life). Hence, tinkering and the good old saddlehunter.com addiction.
 
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