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LWCG 0.5 Full Season Review

Hunters like me that are getting into saddle hunting at what I believe its at or approaching it's zenith of technology and methodology and are actually in a better position to make wiser equipment choice than those here at the sight who were for lack of a better term the pioneers of saddle hunting who have worked out most of the bugs from saddle hunting and spent a goodly amount of $$$$ doing so. You veteran saddle hunters are who we newbies have to thank much for being what were essentially if you will, the "Bata testers" of all things saddle hunting.
One way to look at things and I feel it is a wise way is to adopt a "Buy Once Cry Once" attitude towards getting into saddle hunting.
If we beginner saddle hunters sit down and think about it what will likely cost us more in the long run especially concerning the most expensive ultra vital equipment for our saddle hunting systems like platforms and climbing methods is to buy one of what we know will serve us best right out of the gate that costs a lot or spend 80-90% of the same money on several other similar but less useful pieces of equipment we end up selling or rarely using.

All feel free to correct me when I say I feel the 3 most important parts of your saddle hunting system are:
#1-The saddle and related gear, tether, lineman's etc
#2-Your climbing system
#3-Your platform or type of foot rest system you use.
And it's no coincidence these are usually the most costly parts of a saddle system, or any elevated hunting system for that matter.

Now it's the figuring out what will serve you best that while doing so will cost you the least is in where lies the quandary.
 
I was shocked you didnt do a oh $%^& when you demonstrated side load and the stand moved. I guess everyones definition of handling side loads are different.

Yes and no. The way it's strapped in there's no way it's going anywhere there's just a little play in that strap. Potentially you could use an OCB buckle but I'm not sure I would recommend that, could be bad to put to much force onto the platform. Most platforms that break do so right near that pivot point when it is improperly leveraged. Scuse me if my engineering terminologies aren't correct.

Really when I shoot to the backside of the tree that's not typically how I do it. Kinda hard to describe but I usually dig my left knee into the back of the tree, keep my body in tight to the trunk, and slowly rotate around that way rather than push hard off the platform and swing out wide. Just seems like it creates less movement to be detected when deer are in tight. Exception would be like a cherry or shagbark where noise is an issue.
 
Man, I NEVER considered the ability to sit with your knees against the backside of the seat. Id love to try that out.

Honestly the whole reason I was considering the 0.5 was so I could sit like a normal treestand. Sitting or leaning, I just can't sit effing still in this saddle. Miss my treestands because I can sit like a statue for 4 hours
 
I had pretty much all of the 2020 LWCG stuff. They really need to debur their stuff. Everything was cutting straps. The sticks are the worst. Otherwise a solid lineup.
 
Had a .5 and sold it after I got tagged out. I agree with it being unique platform hybrid. But using it as a traditional hangon for ME was brutal. Comfort for me, is low on my list of priorities. Weight and nimbleness is what I look for. I'm out to kill something not fall asleep comfy in the tree. But even then, I found the stand too uncomfortable. The seat was trash to seat in longer than 20 minutes at a time. And I couldn't stand my feet constantly hanging off the edge.
 
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There are essentially two gripes I have with cable-less saddle platforms. First, they just aren't roomy enough. Yes you can stand up on them, pivot, and execute the weakside shot. Call me clumsy I guess. It's doable but not repeatable. By the time you expand a platform footprint large enough to actually stand and pivot to shoot, it now weighs as much as a treestand.

Second, is the tremendously wasted utility by forgoing the dual purpose use of this shaped rigid object as a backpack frame. For instance I carried my roughly 5 pound platform in a MR popup weighing 4ish pounds = we're now at 9 pounds total. Now, I know that setup isn't designed to be gunning for blue ribbons at the Weight Weenie World Fair. So why not put a good backpack suspension on a much larger platform at the same or less weight? Just makes too much sense I guess.

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First, thanks for sharing. Lots of good information.

Second, my ramblings, for what they may be worth.

I’ve been saddle hunting (not exclusively) since before 2000. Saddle hunting is not a panacea as some want it to be. There have been times I have been out with my lone wolf alpha and wished I had my saddle setup. There have been times I have been out with my saddle setup and wished I had my lone wolf alpha. It is what it is, they both have shortcomings.

Prior to saddles, a simple quiet backpack was all that was needed (it could be cinched to a climber or hang on). Now we need packs like the MR Popup (don’t get me started with my love / hate relationship with it) or a gazillion pages on the best pack. That drives me crazy. And all the additional moving parts that come with it.

Your second point resonates with me, and has done so for quite some time. I think that whoever comes to the table with a dual purpose platform/pack frame integrated with dual purpose adjustable pack stays (maybe Shikar sticks deployed or not deployed) will hit a home run.

Currently I am in my quest to be able to effectively face away from the tree when desired. I have a mission and ridge runner xl on order for experimentation.

My “pie in the sky” wish is to have a pack frame (dual purpose platform) with adjustable stays (a la MR popup) (dual purpose climbing sticks) that I can either face towards or away from the tree.

And add in a custom hammock seat
Where the stick would be dual use trekking poles, and I could face towards away from the tree, and there is a winner in my mind.

The only issue I have with your post is you use yinz. As a PA coal cracker, it is youz.

 
But even then, I found the stand too uncomfortable. The seat was trash to seat in longer than 20 minutes at a time.

This is the hallmark of ALL Lone Wolf and Lone Wolf Custom gear products though?

I’ve hunted out of a Lone Wolf Hand Climber and a Lone Wolf Assault for over 20 years and i’ve never found their seats even remotely comfortable nor are they known for that.

I don’t think you ever buy ANY LWCG or LW product looking for a comfortable seat. Most buy them for their numerous other advantages knowing comfort will not be their strong suit going in id have to imagine.
 
This is the hallmark of ALL Lone Wolf and Lone Wolf Custom gear products though?

I’ve hunted out of a Lone Wolf Hand Climber and a Lone Wolf Assault for over 20 years and i’ve never found their seats even remotely comfortable nor are they known for that.

I don’t think you ever buy ANY LWCG or LW product looking for a comfortable seat. Most buy them for their numerous other advantages knowing comfort will not be their strong suit going in id have to imagine.
I strongly disagree. I know alot of people share your opinion, but I've had many, many 6-7 hr sits in my LW Alpha where I've never had to stand up once to stretch the legs
 
I strongly disagree. I know alot of people share your opinion, but I've had many, many 6-7 hr sits in my LW Alpha where I've never had to stand up once to stretch the legs

I do all day sits in them.

IMO their comfort is STRONGLY tied to the seat height. For me, the stock seat post was too high which caused the front of the seat to dig into my legs after awhile.

If too low it puts your hips at a bad angle causing your hip flexors to get too tight, causing discomfort. Your knees should never be above your hips.

I cut my post down two inches so my hips are now at a 90 degree angle with my feet flat on the platform and it’s much better.

But i still think it’s almost impossible to argue LW seats are comfortable when i’ve sat in a Summit climber seat which is cushioned and suspended like a hammock seat or one of those rope hammock seats. Those things are like lazy boy comfort compared to the minimal padding of a LW seat.

Maybe would help if they included an adjustable height seat post instead of one size fits all.
 
I also hunted with a ..5 this past season using a saddle and agree with everything you stated.It's the best of both worlds.I one stick climb with mine.What I really like is the ability to turn around and sit for a while.I'm not one of those guys who can lean or stand in a saddle for hours on end.
 
Alright, who has a 0.5 they'll sell me? I refuse to buy one new, I don't want to put my money directly into a D'Aquisto pocket.
 
Great review!

I too was looking hard at the .5 but didn't want to pony up the cash just to try it out. I found an old Warren and Sweat hag on in the FB marketplace for $15. It's roughly the same size and weighs in at 6.5 lbs. It will give me a good enough idea on how the .5 would work. Might even like it enough to keep.
 
Love all the other reviews. I'll quote them all in my OP when I get back to a pomcuter and have some time. I didn't set out to write such a glowing endorsement, but just felt I really found something that fit my peculiarities just right and we all have our preferences.
 
I have a millennium m7 and I have some mods in my head that should put me in the 6lb range. Basically to replicate the .5 and use exactly as you do.
I already have a molle frame pack waist belt and shoulder straps for it. Then I want to hack off the seat post and lower it (I’m 5’4”) and add a versa button. Just getting rid of the attachment block and the chunk off the seat post is an easy 2lbs. It’s a great stand for the money and to me an easy mod.
 
Lol I thought that was a typo and you meant 555. Most of the guys on fb want more than msrp. Then I saw the post
Haha yeah im pretty sure lwcg is catching up on orders now and with seasons winding down the days of getting top dollar on used gear are coming to an end for this year
 
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