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LWCG Ambush Platform
- Thread starter okccj
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My take? It's a basic functionality (and possible safety) issue with a product that is designed to be stood on at height and is machined 1 at a time. which is immediately apparent upon use. Not exactly unexpected given the history...but def. worthy of being called out. The lack of an immediate fix suggests to me that e.g. just replacing the bolt with a stronger one might crack the platform.
No argument here. We'll see what happens when it shows up. They may be taking it back.
Does anybody have good pics of the old ambush versabutton and post?
Drilling the hole completely through may weaken the post and cause the post to fail. A very likely possibility due to how thin they tried to keep the post. I would be really leary of any kind of twisting action or heavy side loading. I can't help but think they had a reason for not going completely through. And weight savings for that extra < 1" of bolt material doesn't seem like the right decision hopefully that's not the reason.
Haven't came across anything. H2 Saddles get the same hate. Only issue I've seen with H2 is one post about some threads coming loose on the lineman's loops.
There's a certain risk-acceptance threshold if you're using something that's disclaimed as "for ground use only" at height - so I get that perspective of the H2 stuff although I'm sure it's well made and sufficiently safe.
This is exactly my thought
How will the post perform, since it was tested without a hole penetrating all the way thru ?
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I put mine on a couple of trees briefly on my lunch hour. I had no issues with the bolt bending. I did, however with knowledge of these threads, make sure the loops were pushed as close to the post as possible.
It takes quite a bit of effort to cam that on a big tree with the outer tooth engaging the tree... and the larger platform size adds more leverage where I can see the bolt being an issue. I had more success with the strap a tad loose before camming.
More to come.
It takes quite a bit of effort to cam that on a big tree with the outer tooth engaging the tree... and the larger platform size adds more leverage where I can see the bolt being an issue. I had more success with the strap a tad loose before camming.
More to come.
I just hope mine hurries and and gets here so I can tear it up for myself.
Women love me, platforms fear me. Lol
Women love me, platforms fear me. Lol
I was thinking about this today & wondering rather than drill a hole through the new post ( I’m going to email lwcg & give them opportunity to weigh in) I may just attach a dog bone or something to the post w/ a lone wolf hook or caribiner & girth hitch the other side to the post. That way if it breaks I don’t have a modified $300 paperweight.....not sure
Brad mentioned to me that a looser strap is better for camming these over compared to the stands.
Agree... I feel like the top tree bracket should be further back. That sucker gets tight though.
Well I just got my ambush today and I’ll be honest I haven’t read every post but I kind of thought everyone was over reacting over the bolt issue.
So I pull it out of the box and naturally with all the talk about it I go straight to the bolt. Luckily I read this thread because it was only finger tight at best. I’m no engineer but this isn’t the best design and something will need to be changed for me to trust it.
I suspect the bolt is about 1/4” or more to long comparing it to my LWCG stand bolt.
I’m not Here to bash them but they could have done better. I feel this can be fixed easily with a shorter bolt no drilling required.
On an up side the rest of the platform is really nice. It’s so nice I will find a fix for the bolt (versa button) and move forward.
If anyone from LWCG is reading this great job on the platform and please fix the bolt issue for these guys that spent hard earned money on you product.
So I pull it out of the box and naturally with all the talk about it I go straight to the bolt. Luckily I read this thread because it was only finger tight at best. I’m no engineer but this isn’t the best design and something will need to be changed for me to trust it.
I suspect the bolt is about 1/4” or more to long comparing it to my LWCG stand bolt.
I’m not Here to bash them but they could have done better. I feel this can be fixed easily with a shorter bolt no drilling required.
On an up side the rest of the platform is really nice. It’s so nice I will find a fix for the bolt (versa button) and move forward.
If anyone from LWCG is reading this great job on the platform and please fix the bolt issue for these guys that spent hard earned money on you product.
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I wonder if that's been part of the problem, people cam them over to tight and it puts to much pressure on the bolt.
Yes, I think the versa mini's would be good... I did not try that, but will tonight.