Meateater podcast with Iron Will broadheads

[Exhumis]

Meateater just posted a podcast with the folks of Iron Will discussing all kinds of maths and physics. It’s a good listen.

Ep. 364: Physics and Fatality | MeatEater Podcasts

Steven Rinella talks with Bill Vanderheyden, Brandon Palaniuk, Janis Putelis, Chester Floyd, Hayden Sammak, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider. Topics discussed: Who stole the office fish?; graduating first in your engineering class out of 1,232 students; Brandon Palaniuk wins angler of the year...

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[BackSpasm]

Meateater just posted a podcast with the folks of Iron Will discussing all kinds of maths and physics. It’s a good listen.

Ep. 364: Physics and Fatality | MeatEater Podcasts

Steven Rinella talks with Bill Vanderheyden, Brandon Palaniuk, Janis Putelis, Chester Floyd, Hayden Sammak, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider. Topics discussed: Who stole the office fish?; graduating first in your engineering class out of 1,232 students; Brandon Palaniuk wins angler of the year...

www.themeateater.com

I always wonder when they do a podcast like this why they are meeting in the first place… like the spartan bipods guy…. Makes you think there might be a future acquisition

 

[Wolverinebuckman]

It was a very good interview, made me rethink broadheads quite a bit.

 

[Kayl]

Not going to lie, really made me question the rages I've been shooting. Those iron will broadheads are expensive, but from what I've read you can more or less resharpen and reuse them over and over.

 

[Plebe]

That was tough to get through, I wish they would have just let Bill from Iron Will talk.

I like his train of thought, and how his testing and conclusions follow the science. I wish he would have had the chance to talk more on the finer details.

Spoiler: He disagrees with Ashby (on some points)....and yet they seemingly converse and collaborate.

That's the way to do it. Respect there.

 

[kbetts]

Not going to lie, really made me question the rages I've been shooting. Those iron will broadheads are expensive, but from what I've read you can more or less resharpen and reuse them over and over.

You can do that with a number of quality broadheads.

 

[Chimney7]

Just an fyi, east meets west has a podcast with the same fella, interesting stuff.

 

[BuffaloBill]

Not going to lie, really made me question the rages I've been shooting. Those iron will broadheads are expensive, but from what I've read you can more or less resharpen and reuse them over and over.

Just buy like 100 eBay Chinadermics instead. Should last you a few years and you won’t cry if you lose one.

 

[kyler1945]

There’s a single thing that makes iron will not worth it. Sharpening them.

It takes forever.

They stay sharp through an animal and bouncing around in a quiver. Tight tolerance and spin true after multiple trips through animas and block targets. Do everything right.

Except be easy to sharpen. It’s become kind of a deal breaker for me. I have a set of solids and wides. I’ve found myself screwing on the qad exodus instead.

 

[cville_bowhunter]

Thanks for the recommendation, it was a good one. I agree with some of the other comments and wish that they let him talk more.

Two thoughts I'll add on this:

1- I think the title of "doctor" led me to believe that Ed Ashby was more credible than the average Joe on archery. Bill did a great job of critiquing this––by pointing out that he was an ophthalm...an eye doctor––without speaking ill of him. I had a "duh" moment with this one...

2- Bill's point about broadhead testing was excellent. Essentially, Ashby is a longbow cape buffalo hunter, so he tested all of his stuff geared toward that. Now, how does that translate to whitetail? That's the question Bill poses that made me rethink the Ashby school of thought.

That said, I'm not jumping ship from Ashby to Bill Vanderheyden. I think both have something to offer and some flaws. Without Ashby, I would have never thought critically about my arrows. This podcast only reinforces the importance of knowing your archery equipment and making it a little better each season. At the same time, however, it's in Bill's best interest to create some skepticism and craft a good explanation...better yet, build a solution to your problems that you can buy for 119.99 plus shipping...

 

[neonomad]

The toughest part for me was Steve not understanding arrow acceleration throughout the cycle of the bow…

Wish Janis could’ve talked more.

Last year I picked up some Day Six because they’re stainless and I can sharpen them with less moves on the jig - I think. Thus far after quite a bit of target shooting just a strop has brought em back to what seems to be plenty sharp.

 

[weekender21]

I’ve been shooting IW broadheads for a long time. The #1 thing that really stands out to me is their choice of tool steel and the edge retention. It’s ridiculous how sharp those are after 10 shots in a target. Most heads, even the expensive ones, don’t come close.

Obviously up to the individual how much value you place on that particular aspect.

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[mathhunter]

The toughest part for me was Steve not understanding arrow acceleration throughout the cycle of the bow…

Yeah, that was tough for me to listen to also. Acceleration is not the same thing as velocity.

 

[cville_bowhunter]

Yeah, that was tough for me to listen to also. Acceleration is not the same thing as velocity.

Your username is perfect lol. Now you've got me thinking about derivatives...

 

[jlh42581]

I love the look of the head but at that price and knowing what the sharpening is like no way would I buy them. Magnus black hornet two blades are close enough.

 

[Plebe]

Thanks for the recommendation, it was a good one. I agree with some of the other comments and wish that they let him talk more.

Two thoughts I'll add on this:

1- I think the title of "doctor" led me to believe that Ed Ashby was more credible than the average Joe on archery. Bill did a great job of critiquing this––by pointing out that he was an ophthalm...an eye doctor––without speaking ill of him. I had a "duh" moment with this one...

2- Bill's point about broadhead testing was excellent. Essentially, Ashby is a longbow cape buffalo hunter, so he tested all of his stuff geared toward that. Now, how does that translate to whitetail? That's the question Bill poses that made me rethink the Ashby school of thought.

That said, I'm not jumping ship from Ashby to Bill Vanderheyden. I think both have something to offer and some flaws. Without Ashby, I would have never thought critically about my arrows. This podcast only reinforces the importance of knowing your archery equipment and making it a little better each season. At the same time, however, it's in Bill's best interest to create some skepticism and craft a good explanation...better yet, build a solution to your problems that you can buy for 119.99 plus shipping...

On that last part, idk. They've basically asked him how he got to his design. Sure, his answers promote his designs, because he got there by designing solutions to what he saw as weaknesses to Ashby's credo. Kind of hand and hand imo.

Everyone keeps talking about Iron Will on this thread, but you can take a lot of what's being said here and apply it to other brand broadheads. I really didn't walk away thinking it was an infomercial. He even acknowledged another head as being very good without getting into why his are better.

Bill could easily just talk about how his broadheads subscribe to Ashby principals (cause they do) and why that's important and what makes his heads better than others that are similar...A2 Tool Steel, etc. etc. And that would have been good advertising too.

But he spoke in a manner that I felt was pretty honest about his testing and conclusions.

 

[cville_bowhunter]

On that last part, idk. They've basically asked him how he got to his design. Sure, his answers promote his designs, because he got there by designing solutions to what he saw as weaknesses to Ashby's credo. Kind of hand and hand imo.

Everyone keeps talking about Iron Will on this thread, but you can take a lot of what's being said here and apply it to other brand broadheads. I really didn't walk away thinking it was an infomercial. He even acknowledged another head as being very good without getting into why his are better.

Bill could easily just talk about how his broadheads subscribe to Ashby principals (cause they do) and why that's important and what makes his heads better than others that are similar...A2 Tool Steel, etc. etc. And that would have been good advertising too.

But he spoke in a manner that I felt was pretty honest about his testing and conclusions.

That's fair. To be honest, I've become kind of biased against a lot of hunting media recently because so much of it seems like a well-camouflaged infomercial. So I'm sure that is informing my opinion here. That said, I hold nothing in particular against Bill or Iron Will broadheads

 

[Plebe]

That's fair. To be honest, I've become kind of biased against a lot of hunting media recently because so much of it seems like a well-camouflaged infomercial. So I'm sure that is informing my opinion here. That said, I hold nothing in particular against Bill or Iron Will broadheads

I didn't suppose it, nor did you suggest any ill will. Quite the opposite.

And it is hard not to assign any business motivation to featured speakers like this.

At the same time, it's pretty informative, or would have been, hearing details about testing methodologies and results that maybe challenge some of the current mainstream thinking. So I liked that. After all, that's where Ashby started.