Michigan Ticks Alert

[raisins]

Permetherin. First time I used it was turkey season about 5 years ago, looked down at my boots and watched 6 ticks climb 2 inches up and curl up dead. Use it every year since. Also I live in Georgia right now and hunt primarily pines, no ticks in 2 seasons with my treated clothes.

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I had a spider crawl on my lap when my pants were sprayed with permethrin. Spider had an 8 legged seizure and died, no joke, but it did look like break dancing. I never have ticks when I use permethrin. It is safe when used on clothes. No way I'm going to get Lyme because I don't want chemicals near me.

 

[Weldabeast]

Treated clothing alone isn't 100%.....tucked in shirt and if possible tuck pants....a lone star jammed my permethrin radar (raspberry) and managed to get imbedded on my waistline last weekend but I continuously give myself a visual once over throughout the day especially this time of year....may the schwartz be with u out there

1 item that I keep in my vest with my little first aid kit is some tweezers...I end up using them kinda regular between ticks, thorns stuck in my skin, teeny tiny cactus spines, etc. Good tool to have on u in the woods IMO

 

[REGould]

Another Sawyer's permethrin user here. I get the 2 pack from Amazon, and dump both into a pump spray bottle so I don't have to constantly pull the trigger. The clothes I treat have a label in them that I put the treatment date on so I know how fresh it is. It's awesome seeing the ticks latch on, slow down, and tumble off. Areas I hunt are absolutely loaded with ticks (once got 30 on me in 15 minutes), and haven't had a bite in years.

 

[Exhumis]

Interesting idea on the tick tubes. Don't turkeys eat a ton of ticks? If you want to kill some birds you may not want to eradicate all the ticks, although I do hate them.

Young ones eat ticks but not much. What you want are guinea fowl. Regular tick terminators

 

[Allegheny Tom]

Every time i bring it up, I get a luke warm response, at best, but I’ll keep preaching the gospel of gamehide elimitick clothing. Permethrin “baked right in”. Good for 70 washes or 7 years.

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I’ve put live ticks on the clothes and watch them take a step or two, falter, then drop off dead. No ticks on me since wearing these clothes.

For none-clothes gear like back packs, i use the sawyers spray.

You wont get luke warm from me.
I'm a firm believer in the baked-in permethrin.
I have Insect Shield baked in clothes but my buddy has the Elimatick clothes. Some process, same results...no ticks. And those clothes are always ready to go. No need to have to remember to spray down when you unexpectedly need to go into the woods.
And you can also send your own clothing to Insect Shield and they will give it the factory treatment. They charge my the pound of clothes.

Sawyers is good stuff too but I've had terrible luck with the spray bottles they use. Lame output per trigger sqeeze.
A better way is to buy concentrate (Tractor Supply, garden stores, internet, etc). Mix it in your own sprayer or even do a soak.

 

[TexaninSconny]

I don’t blame you guys where ticks are horrible, but I really hate the idea of putting chemicals on my body that kill things instantly.

The amounts of toxic stuff in our everyday lives these days is crazy.


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[MattMan81]

Educational, discussing, and yet entertaining. Kinda. Warning. PG-16

 

[raisins]

Treated clothing alone isn't 100%.....tucked in shirt and if possible tuck pants....a lone star jammed my permethrin radar (raspberry) and managed to get imbedded on my waistline last weekend but I continuously give myself a visual once over throughout the day especially this time of year....may the schwartz be with u out there

1 item that I keep in my vest with my little first aid kit is some tweezers...I end up using them kinda regular between ticks, thorns stuck in my skin, teeny tiny cactus spines, etc. Good tool to have on u in the woods IMO

Agreed. In the summer, I run super lightweight hiking pants and short shoe gaiters from Outdoor Research.

If you read up on it, I am still not sure why permethrin is a NO for skin but DEET is okay.

They ran studies where they exposed rabbits to permethrin and also studied people that work with permethrin, and it showed no significant effect (of course this is individual). Permethrin was first found in a flower, chrysanthenum (sp?), I believe, and they extracted it.

It is the active ingredient in the lotions/soaps that kill skin parasites in humans (of course, you only use it a few times, when you have lice or scabies, and not all the time!).

 

[raisins]

I don’t blame you guys where ticks are horrible, but I really hate the idea of putting chemicals on my body that kill things instantly.

The amounts of toxic stuff in our everyday lives these days is crazy.


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Agreed to a point, but we exploit human vs critter tolerances to chemicals all the time. For instance, 1 part per million of chlorine in drinking water has no measurable effect on humans but will kill coliform bacteria real fast.

 

[TexaninSconny]

Agreed. In the summer, I run super lightweight hiking pants and short shoe gaiters from Outdoor Research.

If you read up on it, I am still not sure why permethrin is a NO for skin but DEET is okay.

They ran studies where they exposed rabbits to permethrin and also studied people that work with permethrin, and it showed no significant effect (of course this is individual). Permethrin was first found in a flower, chrysanthenum (sp?), I believe, and they extracted it.

It is the active ingredient in the lotions/soaps that kill skin parasites in humans (of course, you only use it a few times, when you have lice or scabies, and not all the time!).

Interesting. I’ll have to read up on it.


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[LoadedLimbs]

I don’t blame you guys where ticks are horrible, but I really hate the idea of putting chemicals on my body that kill things instantly.

The amounts of toxic stuff in our everyday lives these days is crazy.


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While I have no qualms about using permethrin on my outdoor clothing (I've done it for 35 years with no ill effects to me), I understand that not everyone feels the same way. For folks who don't want to load their clothes up with permethrin, here are two different brands of treated gaiters that offer a decent level of protection against tick entry at the pant cuffs, and against ticks ascending up pants from the ankles:

Lymeez Gaiters - Prevent tick bites

Outdoor Research "Bugout" Gaiters - Prevent tick bites

I haven't tried them, because my preference is to spray down my boots, socks, and pants, and shirt or jacket with permethrin (or better yet, use clothing treated with the InsectShield permethrin treatment.) And one can, of course, just tuck their pant cuffs into their socks and spray on DEET or Picaridin insect repellent, but I don't like to chance it when it comes to Lyme disease.

It's completely curable if it's diagnosed and treated early enough, but living in CT, I've known too many people who have suffered permanent effects because they weren't diagnosed and treated early enough for Lyme disease. Permanent nerve and debilitating neurological issues are common when treatment isn't early enough in the progression of the disease.