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My Style of Hunting By Mr. Warren Womack

Found myself around 40 yards from a buck as I was looking for a spot to set up. Not saying it was the key, but I just remembered the tip about grabbing a handful (and mouthful) of leaves and closing the distance. I did manage to close the distance without getting picked off, dropping leaves if the buck looked up, but alas he decided to move on. Definitely a fun technique!
 
I was invited to hunt a friend's lease. It is your traditional southern lease of timber clear cuts and hardwood creeks. I sat 4 times in the two days prior and only saw small bucks. 4pt. spike and 4pt. I decided to sit on the ground for the fourth hunt inside a fallen dead tree. Man was it cool to see that 4 pt walk right past me without a clue at 5 yards. I had never ground hunted before.

Sunday was the last hunt before heading home. I decided to do something completely different. I was going to walk in and set up on the ground again, but in row of pines that lined the hwy. My buddy who leases the land had never hunted the area. He typically stays confined to preset hunts. The pines were about 50-75 yards wide and .5 mile long. They backed up to 3-4 year old pines thicket. I saw a few scrapes and rubs walking in in the morning. The pines were on a slight hill and it appeared that deer were traveling the in between the last row of pines closest to the thicket. I set up about half way down the length of the pines.

At 7:15 I decided to reach in my pack for my grunt. As soon as I reached down I hear/see two deer take off running from ~20 yards away. I watched and listened. It didn't sound as if they went very far. At that same time I got a text from a friend informing he had shot a doe. He wanted to know if i was ready to be picked up. I told him give me until 8 o'clock. I then proceeded to do the unspeakable. I packed up my gear and began a stalk hunt on the two deer that just busted me. I too had recently read these logs and decided to stick a cluster of leaves in my mouth. I went on my way. I crept ~300 yards over about 20 minutes. I turned and my pack slapped a branch. Off goes 1 deer again. I kept thinking, if only I could see them first, I'd have a shot. I made it to the end of the pines where it intersected hardwoods in a creek bottom. I remember listening and thinking again, "that deer didn't take off very far at all!" I was downwind of it, maybe it didn't smell me. I proceeded to make my way down the creek bank. When I hit the bottom I heard rustling to my left. To my surprise there was a huge 10pt buck standing broadside at ~30 yards just staring at me. He didn't take off running, but slowly trotted off before I could raise my bow for a shot. I guess I thought that was deer I was stalking and completely forgot about there being two deer that busted me earlier that morning. I pulled out my phone to text my friend to pick me up when to my right I here a deer walking. To my surprise there was another decent 8pt! I couldn't believe it. My heart was pounding. It was like the buck new I was there but couldn't see me. The buck was stuck in his tracks. I spit out the leaf as I tried to quickly muster a shot. He was at ~35 yards. I slowly slipped the phone in my pocket. The deer was behind a small oak. I drew my bow. He walked forward then jotted up the opposite creek bank (no shot). This was my only chance, 3-4 year old pine thicket awaited him on the opposite side of the creek. Turn left, turn left I thought. Finally at the top of the creek he turned broadside, as I line up my sites he turned away and hit the safety of the thicket. Man what a hunt!

I didn't get to shoot either animal but I gained a fulfilling hunt to remember and share for years to come. This weekend was a weekend of news for me. I was pleased to get out of the comfort of my treestand (and newly acquired saddle) and hunt from the ground. I was encouraged by the overall ease in which I "almost" snuck up on these deer. I am patiently awaiting my next opportunity to lay down a stalk hunt.


TL:DR
I hunted from the ground and was able to watch a young buck pass by at eye level 5 yards away.
I stalk hunted with a bow and almost had an opportunity at two nice bucks!
 
I was invited to hunt a friend's lease. It is your traditional southern lease of timber clear cuts and hardwood creeks. I sat 4 times in the two days prior and only saw small bucks. 4pt. spike and 4pt. I decided to sit on the ground for the fourth hunt inside a fallen dead tree. Man was it cool to see that 4 pt walk right past me without a clue at 5 yards. I had never ground hunted before.

Sunday was the last hunt before heading home. I decided to do something completely different. I was going to walk in and set up on the ground again, but in row of pines that lined the hwy. My buddy who leases the land had never hunted the area. He typically stays confined to preset hunts. The pines were about 50-75 yards wide and .5 mile long. They backed up to 3-4 year old pines thicket. I saw a few scrapes and rubs walking in in the morning. The pines were on a slight hill and it appeared that deer were traveling the in between the last row of pines closest to the thicket. I set up about half way down the length of the pines.

At 7:15 I decided to reach in my pack for my grunt. As soon as I reached down I hear/see two deer take off running from ~20 yards away. I watched and listened. It didn't sound as if they went very far. At that same time I got a text from a friend informing he had shot a doe. He wanted to know if i was ready to be picked up. I told him give me until 8 o'clock. I then proceeded to do the unspeakable. I packed up my gear and began a stalk hunt on the two deer that just busted me. I too had recently read these logs and decided to stick a cluster of leaves in my mouth. I went on my way. I crept ~300 yards over about 20 minutes. I turned and my pack slapped a branch. Off goes 1 deer again. I kept thinking, if only I could see them first, I'd have a shot. I made it to the end of the pines where it intersected hardwoods in a creek bottom. I remember listening and thinking again, "that deer didn't take off very far at all!" I was downwind of it, maybe it didn't smell me. I proceeded to make my way down the creek bank. When I hit the bottom I heard rustling to my left. To my surprise there was a huge 10pt buck standing broadside at ~30 yards just staring at me. He didn't take off running, but slowly trotted off before I could raise my bow for a shot. I guess I thought that was deer I was stalking and completely forgot about there being two deer that busted me earlier that morning. I pulled out my phone to text my friend to pick me up when to my right I here a deer walking. To my surprise there was another decent 8pt! I couldn't believe it. My heart was pounding. It was like the buck new I was there but couldn't see me. The buck was stuck in his tracks. I spit out the leaf as I tried to quickly muster a shot. He was at ~35 yards. I slowly slipped the phone in my pocket. The deer was behind a small oak. I drew my bow. He walked forward then jotted up the opposite creek bank (no shot). This was my only chance, 3-4 year old pine thicket awaited him on the opposite side of the creek. Turn left, turn left I thought. Finally at the top of the creek he turned broadside, as I line up my sites he turned away and hit the safety of the thicket. Man what a hunt!

I didn't get to shoot either animal but I gained a fulfilling hunt to remember and share for years to come. This weekend was a weekend of news for me. I was pleased to get out of the comfort of my treestand (and newly acquired saddle) and hunt from the ground. I was encouraged by the overall ease in which I "almost" snuck up on these deer. I am patiently awaiting my next opportunity to lay down a stalk hunt.


TL:DR
I hunted from the ground and was able to watch a young buck pass by at eye level 5 yards away.
I stalk hunted with a bow and almost had an opportunity at two nice bucks!
@gcr0003 Whatnis the point of putting leaves in your mouth? I have never heard of that before. What does it do?
 
@gcr0003 Whatnis the point of putting leaves in your mouth? I have never heard of that before. What does it do?


Read post #11 from @WHW

"..While still hunting, if I could see a deer before it knew I was there, I would drop down and put the stems of several fallen leaves between my fingers and a few in my mouth. Once that was done I would start my stalk. Sooner or later that deer would become aware of my presence and become alert. With the deer keyed in on me I would release a leaf and as it would float to the ground the deer would lock in on the movement of the leaf, forgetting about me."
 
Read post #11 from @WHW

"..While still hunting, if I could see a deer before it knew I was there, I would drop down and put the stems of several fallen leaves between my fingers and a few in my mouth. Once that was done I would start my stalk. Sooner or later that deer would become aware of my presence and become alert. With the deer keyed in on me I would release a leaf and as it would float to the ground the deer would lock in on the movement of the leaf, forgetting about me."
I just read that! Thanks man! Is he kneeling or standing when he does that.
 
It's done while closing the distance, which is usually standing.
Mr. Womack, will you please write a book :)? OR collaborate a PDF of all your written works? I know I'd gladly pay for it. I"ve found so much of your info helpful and not overly complicated like a lot of other sources. You're also humble and don't speak down in the way you write(or post). I really appreciate that and all the contributions you've made to this site(and others). Thank you.
 
Primary Feed Trees for High Percentage Hunts

Of all the methods that I have used to put deer inside bow range, without a doubt, primary feed trees have been the most productive. A feed tree is any tree that produces and drops hard or soft mast. The hard mast being acorns with the soft mast being honey locust beans, persimmons, apples, crab apples or other domestic fruits. This food supply is at it's best during the early bow season but in some areas it can also be found, on a limited basis, through the entire season.

Oak trees have two basic classifications, red oaks and white oaks. Of course, there are different types in each group. One important difference is, only one year is required for the acorns of a white oak to mature and drop. It takes two years for trees in the red oak family. With this said, red oaks can have first year and second year acorns at the same time, making it possible to have an acorn crop for consecutive years.

Through observation, paying attention to details and keeping a journal, I've learned a few things from bowhunting over oak trees during the past 50 years. All feed trees don't offer the same quality of mast at the same time. There are early mast dropping trees and late dropping trees. The more feed on the ground the more picky the deer are about what tree they select as the primary tree. I relate their attraction to mast to be the same as our attraction to a tomato. When the tomatoes first start coming in we will eat what's there but later on we become more picky about only eating the very best of what's available. The deer are the same way in regards to their food source.

In every area there's going to be one particular tree with prime acorns that are the best around. The deer will find that tree and during the time it's the best, they will designate it as the primary tree, for their area. How long will it last? As long as it's the best. I've seen primary trees last for a couple of weeks and then I've seen them last only a few days. They can be replaced by another tree with more desirable mast at anytime. Like I said, deer are picky and look for the best food source available. An important reason for daily scouting.

I've noticed that oak trees have individual drop times. It seems as though every year a tree has an acorn crop the drop period will be the same time. Keeping a journal I'm able to know the prime drop times of trees that have, in the past, produced sightings and kills. Also, trees that share the same elevation seem to drop during the same time period. It's a good idea to check other areas, that has the same elevation of a primary feed tree that you've found, for another tree that's in it's prime drop time. Using a topo map makes that possible by concentrating your search in areas with a common elevation.

It takes a lot of scouting to find the perfect feed tree to set up on. The more ground covered the better chance there is to find one, especially, during the first part of the season. There has been many days that I've walked two to four hours searching for a primary feed tree. Many times, I've hit the ground running on a big drainage, walking out the edge of a creek for a mile then crossing over and coming back the other side. When I was younger I would sometimes jog from one oak tree to another trying to check everyone I could find, looking for the best possible hunt in the whole area.

In the early part of the season you're not going to find massive amounts of, feed tree, sign. It's just too early for the trees to have peaked out. During that time you will be looking for traces of sign. A few weeks into the season is when you will find sign that will make you climb, instead of you making yourself climb. During that time I'm looking for ground disturbance inside the drip line of a feed trees crown. There will be a defined difference in the way the ground will look on each side of that drip line. Looking close you will see multiple piles of droppings. An active tree will also be a magnet for birds, squirrels and even coons, gathering and knocking out acorns. There has been several times when I've found oak trees, in their prime, by just going to the sounds of Blue Jays thrashing in the tops. What seals the deal is the rate of acorn drop, the faster the acorns drop the better. I love a tree that has all the sign and is raining acorns. It's a tree that begs me to hunt it and impossible for me not to.

Unless the ground is wet or soft the sign under persimmon and honey locust bean trees doesn't show up as well as it does under an oak tree. The deer come in fast, suck up persimmons like a vacuum cleaner and are always on the move. You've got to be ready with bow in hand. It's not unusual for a deer to come to a tree and leave before you're able to take a bow shot.

I've found Honey Locust Bean trees, to be a buck magnet. It seems to me that bucks make up a high percentage number of the deer that show up to feed on the long black bean pods. Their feeding pattern is more like it is for oak trees. They move slow and spend time under the tree. The sign doesn't show up as good under a hot bean tree as it does under most oaks. The leaves from the honey locust trees are really small and don't show disturbance from feeding like the larger leaves of oaks. I've watched bucks walk through prime acorns to get to the locust beans.

Spend as much time as possible, every day, scouting for high percentage hunts. Work hard at finding the best the area has to offer, for a chance to put deer in bow range. Somewhere out there is the perfect place to kill a deer.... all you have to do is find it, recognize it for what it is and set up right. Don't climb unless you feel it's right. If a spot is "hot" it will make you hunt it, instead of you making yourself hunt it.

In closing, as beneficial as food sources are, don't get yourself in a rut by doing the same thing every hunt. Try different thing, hunt different areas. Don't over hunt a spot, remember a deer can pattern you quicker than you can pattern them. If possible make several hunts in one day. Mix it up, the more places you climb the more you learn about deer movement and you may be able to move into a good set up by observing distant movement. Deer patterns are always changing, be able to move with them..... be portable ...... be mobile..... be successful. Have a good understanding of the area that you are hunting, use and believe in your map and compass. Remember that perfect "spot" is waiting for you to find it. Hunt the very "BEST" of the sign you find.

----Warren H. Womack----
Thanks for posting this sir! Very good info!
 
@IkemanTX hit the flag button on the comment, above the like button. This saves it, and you can find it in your bookmarks.

I’m running on Tapatalk, so there is a completely different way to follow threads. Viewing my own post history is much faster.
 
Mr. Womack, will you please write a book :)? OR collaborate a PDF of all your written works? I know I'd gladly pay for it. I"ve found so much of your info helpful and not overly complicated like a lot of other sources. You're also humble and don't speak down in the way you write(or post). I really appreciate that and all the contributions you've made to this site(and others). Thank you.

Thank You, Vtbow (sorry, I don't know your given name). I appreciate your kind words and confidence in my opinions. I started self filming my hunts during the '91 season and produced a half a dozen or so videos that I sold. Half of the kills, in the first video that I released, were with a wheel bow and the other half was with a recurve bow. To the best of my knowledge it was the first ever commercially offered video that was self filmed. It was a great experience and I made a lot of new friends through it. With the experience that I gained from producing & selling videos overwhelms me with the thought of what it would take to put a book together. I already have, in my journals, what could be the contents. So it would come down to how to lay it out. Also, I've never been a "trophy hunter" or big buck killer. For me any kill was a challenge and appreciated. Probably something the majority of hunters wouldn't be interested in.
 
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Thank You, Vtbow (sorry, I don't know your given name). I appreciate your kind words and confidence in my opinions.

You're very welcome :)

I think a lot of people here share my appreciation and high regards of your shared info and help.

Also, I've never been a "trophy hunter" or big buck killer. For me any kill was a challenge and appreciated. Probably something the majority of hunters wouldn't be interested in.

I think you'd be surprised the number of people who just want good tactics to get on ANY deer. I"m like you. I will shoot any legal deer, and they are all considered trophies to me. I think your perspective is what helps your information be so applicable to more people and keeps it "real". You're not biased, you dont judge people on what the choose to shoot or not, and from what I have read you value the experience of scouting, being in the woods, and learning as much as the end result itself. Honestly, the majority of people in my area hunt that way because the deer population is not as dense as many other areas and the woods are big and deep. If you pass on a deer in range, it may be the only one you see all season...or for two years depending on how things are doing. Your information helps anyone capitalize on the opportunity they choose to take or are given, and I personally want to be a better, more effective hunter of deer and game of all sizes.

I know it could be a somewhat daunting task, but bet you could put a document together called something like the "Womack Chonicles" and just collaborate your current writing in "season" chronological order and it would read awesome!

Thanks again for everything you contribute!
 
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