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New Giant Scrape

Catskills said:
you have more years deer hunting than I do alive so I will take your word for it. But i've been hearing of lots of guys having bucks hitting scrapes on camera after they piss in them. Not a tactic I would use or even do my own study. Something about after it dries all they smell is the ammonia so they can't distinguish our piss vs their piss.
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I can somewhat agree with the base smell after it sits there for many hours smelling similar to deer urine or the base ammonia smell. However I've knelt down and smelled many scrapes after they were urinated in by deer and fresh deer urine definitely smells different than human urine. If a scrape is fresh, why would you want to doctor it up at all anyway. Let the scrape work on it's own. Totally different that making a mock scrape where actual deer urine is required.

Also how the local deer react to urines is based on the areas amount and type of hunting pressure and what caliber of buck you want to target.
 
Understand PJC as ScentLok is expensive. I couldn't afford it either when it first came out and had to save my money for 2 years before I could in the mid 90's. Nothing wrong whatsoever with having to play the wind, I did for 35 seasons and I hated it but there was no options.

When you say it has cover all around it, what type of cover is on the right side of the pic and how big is that area of security cover? It looks like the narrow grassy buffer between the woods to the left and the cover to the right is only about 4 yards wide.
 
John Eberhart said:
Understand PJC as ScentLok is expensive. I couldn't afford it either when it first came out and had to save my money for 2 years before I could in the mid 90's. Nothing wrong whatsoever with having to play the wind, I did for 35 seasons and I hated it but there was no options.

When you say it has cover all around it, what type of cover is on the right side of the pic and how big is that area of security cover? It looks like the narrow grassy buffer between the woods to the left and the cover to the right is only about 4 yards wide.
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Yes. The property is owned by an organization that encourages nature walks but it's almost always swampy so doesn't get a lot of traffic. It's been wet this year and I'm surprised there is a path at all. There is a pond and a swamp to the right. Buck Bedding in the other side of the pond about 60 yards away. To the left is a thick section of nastyness that is about 20 yards deep and 50 yards long. Thick tree line is where I'm set up. Beans are in the field behind me. I was hoping for corn this year. Beans two years in a row. What's up with that?


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Huge rubs everywhere in that area. Fresh.


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Well with the bean field being there you can't really enter for a morning hunt without spooking deer so you're somewhat tied to evening hunts. Have you hunted it yet and if so what did you see and how did you enter and exit?
 
John Eberhart said:
Well with the bean field being there you can't really enter for a morning hunt without spooking deer so you're somewhat tied to evening hunts. Have you hunted it yet and if so what did you see and how did you enter and exit?
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I'll draw a map.


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I think there are some bucks bedded on the edge of Triangle woods that sticks out into the bean field where I indicated Rubs.
Also, there are tree lines several hundred yards away on either the left or right of this map where bucks may bed. A hill hides my entrance, MOST of the way.
I hunted it once so far. I had a small buck approach me from right in front of me on the path that runs along the end of the corn crop. At JUST after dark, I had two bucks come out and spar right in front of me about 8 yards. They were there for a long time. One was big but I couldn't make out his rack. All I could see through my rangefinder, which gathers some light) were his main beams and one other point on either side. It was hard to tell even though I could almost reach out and grab them. The other was a tall spike or fork. He was much lighter both in his coat and his antlers.
It took me about 45 minutes to let them clear the area, I could still hear them sparring but from much farther away down the path. (one paths actually cuts north through the center) When I finally got down and was packing up my bag in the bean field, I could hear footsteps close behind me in the bean field, like 10-15 yards. I looked over my shoulder and saw a nice rack and bust of a buck silhouetted against the sky. He took off. Then I got up to walk and another deer blew at me and ran away. Never could see that one. It was a good hunt. Shot a coyote earlier in the evening on the path where the first buck had come in. He stood there and sniffed the ground where the coyote had been shot for several minutes. The coyote had made it into the corn before it expired.
 
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