The Alpha at 14 lbs was ready to hunt? And the Echo is 11.5 lbs bare? What's the real difference then?Lone wolf and Novix are going to be the same company soon. They lightened the old Alpha 2 stand by 2.5 pounds and called it the Echo. There isn’t going to be an old Alpha 2 or Assault stand made anymore. That’s why the Assault isn’t available anymore. They did a whole podcast on this awhile ago. Get caught up!