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New platform
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Like the assassin, most of the extra weight is in the thickness in the platform. Things get heavy fast without cables.
It didn't feel slippery when wet. I wouldnt worry about that.
The coating wasnt durable. I could scratch it off. Edges were already showing good amount of wear after 3 days at ATA. I didnt see a lot of value add with the coating. I suspect they will try to improve but right now I would prefer a clean system.
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It didn't feel slippery when wet. I wouldnt worry about that.
The coating wasnt durable. I could scratch it off. Edges were already showing good amount of wear after 3 days at ATA. I didnt see a lot of value add with the coating. I suspect they will try to improve but right now I would prefer a clean system.
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The "saddle" will be redone but will be similar to the old Assassin design. Kuhnert said they were targeting conservative saddle hunters that like big straps, big buckles, and big platforms.
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He is correct. It will come with a 5 point arrest "saddle" very similar to the one received with the original assassin.
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I wear a 13 and the predator platform is perfect for me. Save yourself the 2lbs and extra $100.
5 pounds is a heavy saddle platform but I can see folks using one of these for those hunts close to road. I will; probably pick one up at some time but in all reality I think the Predator will far and away be a better option for me and how I hunt.
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He told me it was going to be minimized since they wouldn't pursue TMA this time. There wont be shoulder straps but he was still deciding whether to use leg straps or leave those off as well and just have a waist band. My guess is they'll keep leg straps.
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Cool. He didnt mention the no shoulder straps but he did want to keep the bigger webbing. Anything can change though.
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What? Seriously, I am not sure what your point is, before I guess and try to address it.
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This new platform is just the old one with a new manufacturing technology. Same with his saddle. The old platform is nice, but too big and heavy. His saddle is not designed to hold any body weight, just keep you from falling to the ground and allowing you to lean a bit. Its like he didnt check the market for anything but potential new sales.
Too big and heavy for who? You make it sound like some kind of massive consensus? It's not too big and heavy for a whole lot of people, as evidenced by the outlandish demand for the used Assassins.
His harness design isn't intended to mimic those currently on the market. I don't think it's for me either but there's more than one way to skin a cat as the saying goes.
It's useful to see variation in the marketplace (clearly different people have different needs). It's just not a product that really interests me, and maybe isn't especially targetted at the saddlehunter.com market as much as it is the "tree stand guys who want to try a saddle" market.
It's clearly not a minimalist, specialized product (and maybe when it wasfirst released it was closer to that niche?) at this point. More of a compromise.
It's clearly not a minimalist, specialized product (and maybe when it wasfirst released it was closer to that niche?) at this point. More of a compromise.
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Too heavy for me... For others... we are all different. So yes there are lots of ways to skin a cat.
Because of their affiliation with Darton I would speculate it's the soft touch they used to offer on bows... I stripped it off of my 3800, it's useless.
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My opinion was there wasnt anything commercially available for a long time and diy isnt for everyone. This is why those are in demand in my opinion. Now that the predator is available that will change, just has to get more widely known(advertised). It will still be small for some, but jumping up in size and weight(and cost) to the latest assassin is a big jump. Most of us I think its safe to say are looking to cut weight.
How many people are using sticks to climb to a saddle? For those people, is this platform a problem? Probably not. It packs similarly or better, especially if you spring for the matching LWCG sticks. They're a well-matched package.
Get to a smaller platform and selling matching sticks gets tougher, pushing LWCG further outside of their core expertise and comfort zone. Could they offer a smaller platform and micro-sticks? Maybe but how small can you shrink a stick and have it make sense? And I think they really want to promote "packages". It's compact enough to stay within the shoulder profile which is a reasonable target for a large saddle platform, and it's just big enough to attach sticks to which simplifies stick hauling as well. It probably packs better with sticks than a predator does.
Of course a lot of the beauty of saddle hunting is that it can be so much more compact than that, and even short sticks can become the bulkiest thing you're carrying. But guys coming from standa may not have that initial perspective.
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As a person who uses his platform to haul sticks, I see your point. Its a no brainer for me, my platform has shoulder straps and I keep the post long to accommodate this feature. I think they could have worked closer with each other to mount the sticks up/down with say 14" button to button and made the platform smaller. Guess we will see where it goes.......If the seat is stronger than xop and offered separately......Ill probably look harder at that.
I prefer a more compact setup as well, but I see their thinking too. A better setup might be mounting to the platform post with a more compact overall profile - but as much as it's not quite what I'm currently looking for, I see the appeal more now than before thinking about it. I think I'd have taken the idea further though.As a person who uses his platform to haul sticks, I see your point. Its a no brainer for me, my platform has shoulder straps and I keep the post long to accommodate this feature. I think they could have worked closer with each other to mount the sticks up/down with say 14" button to button and made the platform smaller. Guess we will see where it goes.......If the seat is stronger than xop and offered separately......Ill probably look harder at that.
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Speaking of the Darton 3800, I am pretty positive that the Lobo riser is the 3800 riser. Maybe the left overs that they are charging $1,300 for? The insert idea to add a pattern on the bow is sort of interesting, especially if it is rubber and helps silence the bow. I do not know if that will work out for them.
I will end up with the Ambush for sure. 4 to 5 pounds (2 pounds more) on my pack is not a concern of mine. My climber that was over 20 lbs was. I like the added room, Throw a versa strap on it and you are good to go. I just wish it landed closer to $225. I think that they would sell thousands of them at that price. Time will tell boys.