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kyler1945 said:
I know all you fools want to shave weight. And all you other fools want to make fun of them for being unsafe, and tell them to skip the cake.

Well, sometimes we can have our cake and eat it too.

You may have seen my thread on adding an energy absorber. I went a different route than the absorbica in that thread after a little research. Below is what I've landed on. Note - even if you have no interest in the energy absorber, this tether setup without is right at 7 ounces, and fits in your pocket. All components are rated to a minimum of 22kn break strength - there are no compromises here.

Sterling Oplux 8mm rope - not cheap, and not by the foot. I may consider selling what I've got left over (roughly 40'). https://sterlingrope.com/store/work/ropes/tactical-rope/oplux-tactical

Beal Jammy Prusik - Still in awe of the strength of this little booger. https://www.libertymountain.com/products/5595/NTN17719

DMM Compact Shackle - these things are tiny and awesome - it's the connection between jammy and ripstop. https://dmmprofessional.com/Products/Alloy-Connectors/Compact-Shackles

DMM Ripstop - this is the energy absorber I landed on, that made the most sense for my application. https://dmmclimbing.com/Products/Slings-Lanyards/Ripstop

Total weight of this setup is 10.75 Ounces. My former tether was 11mm rope, 8mm prusik and same biner. It was at 12.4 ounces. Like I said - no energy absorber/shackle, and you drop to just over 7 ounces. Even with the tied loop for a girth hitch, it's still considerably more compact than my former tether.

Pics to follow. Do your homework, don't do things because some guy on the internet says it's ok. But hopefully some of the info helps someone out!
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Nice choices, all top of the line gear. The jammy is amazing and one of the most versatile pieces of coordage out there!
 
Vtbow said:
Nice choices, all top of the line gear. The jammy is amazing and one of the most versatile pieces of coordage out there!
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Now whyd you have to go and put that horrible autolocking biner on there and screw the beautiful setup up???
 
kyler1945 said:
I know all you fools want to shave weight. And all you other fools want to make fun of them for being unsafe, and tell them to skip the cake.


Total weight of this setup is 10.75 Ounces. My former tether was 11mm rope, 8mm prusik and same biner. It was at 12.4 ounces. Like I said - no energy absorber/shackle, and you drop to just over 7 ounces. Even with the tied loop for a girth hitch, it's still considerably more compact than my former tether.

Pics to follow. Do your homework, don't do things because some guy on the internet says it's ok. But hopefully some of the info helps someone out!
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Pics? why a shackle instead of carabiner?
 
kyler1945 said:
Haha I have about 20 different biners. Which one do you recommend? WHo's the boss for the application?
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I prefer pear lockers, but you can get pretty damn light. I"d suggest a BD vaporlock as my top choice, but you can get to like 37g with a grivel plum nut

This is the best weight weenie sight in the world for climbing gear, all sorted by weight:

https://weighmyrack.com/carabiner?f[]=bying_options:USA&f[]=field_cbnr_locking:screw

No boss on application of autos or non autos. I just hate dealing with autos with gloves on--they pinch lightweight gloves super easy. THey also freeze pretty good with water in them and snow and ice and dirt... My applications have always been universal in the climbing world. So both rock and ice climbing. They also breed bad habbits in my book. Once you start using them if you introduce a non auto in your system you better be squeeze checking everything, cause you'll forget. And as the autos get used, they will often close quicker than the lock and auto rotate and end up half locked....
 
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I’ve used the oplux rope for awhile and am very impressed. My tether is also very light and simple. I used a sterling hollow block and a metolius bravo.
 
kyler1945 said:
Hollow block is another good option here - I use one for an auto block on my rappel setup with same rope. I wanted this setup to have a the full rating of some of the bigger components. The jammy and the oplux seem to play well together.
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I’ll have to order one too check it out!
 
Vtbow said:
They also breed bad habbits in my book. Once you start using them if you introduce a non auto in your system you better be squeeze checking everything, cause you'll forget. And as the autos get used, they will often close quicker than the lock and auto rotate and end up half locked....
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Good enough for me. No sense in forming bad habits when I'm spending the time an effort to stay afloat.
 
@kyler1945 which compact shackle did you go with? Do you think the smaller one (D shape - SW410) would fit on the linesman loops of a Flex? Also do you have a pic of it connected to the jammy and ripstop? But, don't go through the trouble of taking your wrap off to get a pic :)
 
kyler1945 said:
I know all you fools want to shave weight. And all you other fools want to make fun of them for being unsafe, and tell them to skip the cake.

Well, sometimes we can have our cake and eat it too.

You may have seen my thread on adding an energy absorber. I went a different route than the absorbica in that thread after a little research. Below is what I've landed on. Note - even if you have no interest in the energy absorber, this tether setup without is right at 7 ounces, and fits in your pocket. All components are rated to a minimum of 22kn break strength - there are no compromises here.

Sterling Oplux 8mm rope - not cheap, and not by the foot. I may consider selling what I've got left over (roughly 40'). https://sterlingrope.com/store/work/ropes/tactical-rope/oplux-tactical

Beal Jammy Prusik - Still in awe of the strength of this little booger. https://www.libertymountain.com/products/5595/NTN17719

DMM Compact Shackle - these things are tiny and awesome - it's the connection between jammy and ripstop. https://dmmprofessional.com/Products/Alloy-Connectors/Compact-Shackles

DMM Ripstop - this is the energy absorber I landed on, that made the most sense for my application. https://dmmclimbing.com/Products/Slings-Lanyards/Ripstop

Total weight of this setup is 10.75 Ounces. My former tether was 11mm rope, 8mm prusik and same biner. It was at 12.4 ounces. Like I said - no energy absorber/shackle, and you drop to just over 7 ounces. Even with the tied loop for a girth hitch, it's still considerably more compact than my former tether.

Pics to follow. Do your homework, don't do things because some guy on the internet says it's ok. But hopefully some of the info helps someone out!
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Might be interested in your leftover OpLux
 
DanO said:
What size Beal Jammy did you go with?
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The 35cm seems to work best for a regular Prusik on 8mm rope, but I also have the next size up. I bought one online to try, and then a few when I was at REI in Houston they had em in stock.
 
Can you SRT climb with this rope since it is 8mm? Does the madrock lifeguard and hand ascender work with 8mm?
 
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