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New to saddles - are my ropes ok?

dk_ace said:
This is what I was thinking, but now this thread has me super conflicted….

I’ve tested that rope by putting my weight on it (slowly, haven’t fallen in it), and it never showed any signs of slipping. Saddle hunting when done correctly, as I understand it, never leaves any slack in the line. So I’m not understanding why this tether is fundamentally flawed.

Sounds like I have to choose between products that are actually tested and ones that are theoretically better but untested. Not a great choice…

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While I would rather have a figure 8 than an overhand knot, the tether should be fine. On this site I am usually the guy begging people to trade up and do something much safer… In this instance I know that as long as that rope is in good shape like you say, it’s plenty strong enough for saddle hunting. Worst case scenario untie the overhand knot on the end and tie the eye into a figure a instead. It will make your tether about 3” shorter than it is now and then your end knot is even stronger. That’s my two cents
 
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Fl Canopy Stalker said:
Ok yes they are out of business but no not really… Andres kept the title Lone Wolf when he sold the company. He had a non compete for several years, then he opened Lone Wolf Custom Gear. It’s my understanding that “Lone Wolf” was having to pay trademark royalties to Andres and when he reopened LWCG it confused people about the products they were buying, Lone Wolf is Novix Outdoors (think of the people who make trophyline platforms and sticks)… so yea you’re right, but they didn’t go out of business in the sense that they stopped making elevated hunting gear, they more or less rebranded
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Right, but LW still doesn't exist anymore.

In this case, there's a question about LW rope.

I suppose Novix may clear that up, and the folks at LWCG are certainly knowledgable about a lot of that too having been there from the beginning.

But contacting LW ain't happening. So, who's the accountable party?

As well, I think the business structure of LW and Novix had more autonomy than LW is Novix and visa versa. Could be wrong there, but that's my impression.
 
Brocky said:
Rope looks good to me, the knot tails could be sewn down to prevent slippage, for easiest fix.
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Brocky, 'Hope u are well... always appreciate your input.

as an average hunter, sewing ends is not something we can do ourselves. But replacing the overhand loop with a secure end loop with some tail is something we can do in the same time it takes to type a comment. That nub of a tail in the pic i sent isn't safe. Agree?

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John RB said:
Brocky, 'Hope u are well... always appreciate your input.

as an average hunter, sewing ends is not something we can do ourselves. But replacing the overhand loop with a secure end loop with some tail is something we can do in the same time it takes to type a comment. That nub of a tail in the pic i sent isn't safe. Agree?

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Hey John, replacing the overhand knot is definitely an option (though not necessary) and that is definitely a good idea. However the average hunter could also easily sew the tag end down, or whip it for that matter. There’s as many videos on that as there is on thing a knot and you can get a strong upholstery needle and some whipping twine from wal mart and easily sew down the tag end, (it doesn’t have to be super strong it’s only needed to prevent tail slippage. So both are an easy option in my opinion and I think Brocky would agree
 
philsanchez76 said:
That escalated quickly from ropes to butt wiping! @boyne bowhunter you know how to paint a picture! I totally agree. For 50 bucks or less get a professional certified rope from a trusted company and learn to tie a figure 8.
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Yeah, you're right, that's a bit harsh. In hindsight I could have worded that a bit better. For that I apologize @dk_ace. The point I was trying to make is that decisions we make when we're climbing 20 feet could have a long term affect not only on us but on our loved ones as well. If you're free solo climbing El Capitan and you fall there's only one possible outcome from a fall. Yes your loved ones will miss you but there's really no long term effect on others.

When you make a mistake that results in falls of 15-20ft there's a good chance you may survive but be completely disabled. I think a lot of us (I know I didn't) don't consider those long term possibilities when we're making decisions. I make sure I'm tied in properly more for my family than I do for myself.
 
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i accidentally posted something i decided to self-censor and then deleted it, sorry if anyone saw that and took exception
 
I’m a newbie to Saddle hunting. One of the reasons I’m swapping is the relative safety of Saddle hunting systems. I’ve been a Critical Care Medic for years now. In those years of seen many accidents from hunting falls (a good percentage from improper equipment). I am in no way an expert on saddles. Still learning. But what i do know, are the injuries that have lasting ramifications form even a short fall. I’ve flown too many who will never walk their daughter down the aisle, or even take a stroll in the woods ever again. I purchased high quality ropes with good safety rating and the expert recommendations of those who depend on these items daily occupationally. Don’t take the chance. It’s not something you can take back after the fall. Our families don’t want to get that call. A new set of ropes is a lot cheaper than a funeral or long term care. Stay safe out there and have fun!
 
dk_ace said:
Well, there’s one vote for keep them and one for replace them. Anyone else?

FWIW, these are not the items included with the stands, they are the upgraded ones you purchase separately. They look like new despite a few years of use.

Thanks,
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You bought them new, no reason they weren’t safe then. You are the only one to have used them, and they look like new, my vote is to use them with the tails sewn down, or retie.
 
skydoc said:
I’m a newbie to Saddle hunting. One of the reasons I’m swapping is the relative safety of Saddle hunting systems. I’ve been a Critical Care Medic for years now. In those years of seen many accidents from hunting falls (a good percentage from improper equipment). I am in no way an expert on saddles. Still learning. But what i do know, are the injuries that have lasting ramifications form even a short fall. I’ve flown too many who will never walk their daughter down the aisle, or even take a stroll in the woods ever again. I purchased high quality ropes with good safety rating and the expert recommendations of those who depend on these items daily occupationally. Don’t take the chance. It’s not something you can take back after the fall. Our families don’t want to get that call. A new set of ropes is a lot cheaper than a funeral or long term care. Stay safe out there and have fun!
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Well said!
 
I don’t want to sound like I am trying to insult you, believe me I’m not. I’m all about trying to save a dollar wherever I can when it’s acceptable to me BUT… saddle hunting is VERY EXPENSIVE! As far as safety equipment goes, save your money and buy the best! It took me a year to piece together my first full kit. Please be safe.
 
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