After reading of some issues with the LWHC with bolt mod (I have and XOP) I started looking at alternative climbing methods. I don't have any sticks to try one sticking but I do have some Wild Edge Steps so I went out to my practice tree and gave it a try. Used the knaider swaider with one step and got up the tree just as well if not faster than with the LWHC. I just ordered a WE Perch and will probably carry a second Step for additional mobility at hunting height. 2 steps and a Perch weigh in at 2.9# Anyone else tried this?