If you haven't bought the sawtooth yet, don't. I have the vest and it really doesn't do much, I think a jacket form would be annoying. I do wear a Klamath pretty much anytime I'm out as long as it's not too warm. I bought a second that i wear around the house 90% of the time. It's really not that warm, but I love the hood and it just provides that little extra layer without overheating when you're walking, or if you work in you're unfinished basement. I've used the obsidian merinos through last turkey season and deer season and I wear them pretty much anytime the temp is above 50-55 or if I'm walking and it's over 40 (layered appropriately with merino base layers). Point being I've worn them pretty good and I love them. I know what your saying about the material though, it's weird and I had the same concerns as you but the fit and breathability are great. They soften up a bit with time and a wash or two (use good technical/merino wash). I thought they felt nearly tailored to my exact size and the fit is better than any other pant I've ever worn. No concerns yet with construction. I had a pair of the guide light pants before these that I completely destroyed on one shed hunting trip. Walking through knee high briars, not thick, just enough to be annoying, and they are shredded. I've been through that area with the obsidians, though not to the same extent, and they've held up fine. That said, I'm not sure it's the toughest stuff out there and you can definitly find more durable items for much cheaper. For me, though, I really appreciate the fit and breathability. I've always had crappy pants, usually without a button, and these are like a breath of fresh air. If i'm going out brush busting I'll wear my already shredded pants or something else, but these come out with me 85% of the time. I have enough of their stuff now that I would tend to avoid them aside from base layers and maybe pants. In my experience, FL stuff is really nice for active hunting and/or when the wind is low, but anytime the wind blows it cuts right through. It's great for getting in the woods, but I need something to better cut the wind when I'm in the tree. Looking at huntworth, natural gear, UA rut bibs, and I just got the Anorak from Kings camo that I really like so far.