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Peep sight help

If your peep is slightly rotated, twist your d loop in the direction the peep is biased toward. This should square it up.
 
djlr55 said:
If your peep is slightly rotated, twist your d loop in the direction the peep is biased toward. This should square it up.
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This is a good short term solution, l also suggest this if you just want to just shoot and enjoy shooting. It could be that your strings need time to settle in. But I usually dont hear about this issue with tube style peep sights. As the whole point of the tube is the peep is 'pulled' into alignment. I highly recommend getting a tubeless peep.

The suggestion of no peep is also good advices. But take it with some understanding that it is going to make the initial journey harder. Just like using an index release VS a handheld release that basically 99% of pros use. A hinge or resistance style release is not as beginner friendly as an index. It does force you to work on your form more but its hard without proper coaching from someone who can give you a better view of your form. You hear a lot of seasoned archer say that they wish they skipped the index release in the beginning, that once they have a better understanding of archery forms, it took time to get rid of their bad habits from using an index. A peep helps give you a good indicator if you are holding a consistence repeatable anchor. Its not the only thing, but for new archer it does help with some accuracy, which in turn help with confident and enjoyment of shooting. But that is also the trapping.

99% got into archery using peep, index release, and whisker biscuit rest. Then move on to what they feel are most comfortable to them. If you're not comfortable moving outside your comfort zone, no need to rush it, just enjoy shooting and getting the feeling of it.
 
wmahunterfl said:
get rid of the peep and go with this No peep sight required and works great for people with rx glasses.
Hind Sight Hindsight Magnum
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This looks really interesting. I've been considering going peepless next year since I missed out on a doe this year right at last light since I couldn't see her through my peep. Can anyone comment on how their experience with this product has been? I'm hesitant to add another piece of equipment onto my bow, but this might be worth it if others have had good experience.
 
Ben C said:
I bought a new Bear Species LD in July 2021. It came with their trophy ridge package, so basic 4 pin sight, whisker biscuit and 6in stabilizer. I have it set to 31in draw length. I took off the wrist sling and replaced d loop once, otherwise everything is stock. I have a peep with the tube. I switched to a trufire synapse release from a trufire smoke. Using 300 grain .245 victory v force gamer arrows with 100 grain field points.
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Alright, you got an entry level bow. They come with a tube style peep because they know they're strings are going to stretch and twist on the shooter. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, it's just the truth. Depending on how much you shoot, your string should have settled stretching by now.

I know this all started when you changed your peep height to accommodate a new anchor position due to a new release.

A good rule of thumb is, "change one thing, change everything." In other words, if you want to try something new, go back to square one when you do. Start by paper tuning with the new release, and work your way from there.

If I were in your shoes, I would measure all the specs and compare to manufacturer specs, i.e. brace height, axle to axle, draw weight (as much as you can). If these measurements are off then for sure your strings have stretched.

Take it to a good bow shop and explain exactly what your experiencing and what you want.

It might be a bit of a drive but I know Long Range Archery in Holland is a good shop.



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I’ve used this for years. Works awesome!! Cut the top 2 cross hairs off with a razor blade and line the bottom 2 with your pin like a gun sight!! Good luck! If you have multiple pins line up with middle or lower pin. It is disgned to keep you from torquing your bow.
 

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Going peepless definitely helps with low light, but I haven't found the other concerns to manifest for me.

I've never had a peep move up and down, but I don't tie like most bow shops (I super tie it just around the peep housing, no serving above and below on the string). I've never had a peep rotate wrong on a deer because I have a press and mess with the peep until it is perfect at full draw with little or no help from the d loop. And if my strings are rotating/not stable, then I replace the string with a custom string from a known maker (Twisted X, etc).

I run a larger peep than most target archers (1/4 to 5/16 inch depending upon bow axle to axle length), so I can still shoot when it is pretty dark.

Just know there are tons of people using a tubeless peep with no issues.
 
If you go to the bow shop or get access to a bow press, a simple 1/2 or full turn in your bow string can help out a lot. And I'm on board with everyone else. . .GET RID OF THE DAMN TUBE!!! Good luck, you have a simple fix there.
 
To Me,it sounds like you need to find a better bow shop. a good bow shop will make sure it is the way you want it since the season is over you have some time to get it right I would try another peep, tubeless,try with out a peep shooting without a peep is great for low light but for long distance shots it might not be the best thing I use g5 peep sights in my bows.
 
Wanted to give an update. I've spent the past few months working on my mechanics and being consistent every time, even with the peep rotation. I decided to buy some catfish custom strings to eliminate the possibility of the peep rotation being due to bad strings. I went to Grand Valley Sporting Goods again and I was bummed to see I'd be helped by the same guy as last time, but I gave him another try. Told him I wanted my strings replaced and a tubeless peep. Also told him I was thinking of trying a clarifier and magnifier since I was having a hard time seeing the target. He told me I could just run a clarifier, and when I came back to pick up my bow another employee said he was wrong and I would likely need both for a clarifier to benefit me. We got my peep height set and I was so happy with the new strings and tubeless peep, until I got home and saw one of my limbs was cracked. I went back and while they deny breaking it they are fixing it. In the end it seems new strings and a quality tubeless peep will be my answer.
 
Ben C said:
Wanted to give an update. I've spent the past few months working on my mechanics and being consistent every time, even with the peep rotation. I decided to buy some catfish custom strings to eliminate the possibility of the peep rotation being due to bad strings. I went to Grand Valley Sporting Goods again and I was bummed to see I'd be helped by the same guy as last time, but I gave him another try. Told him I wanted my strings replaced and a tubeless peep. Also told him I was thinking of trying a clarifier and magnifier since I was having a hard time seeing the target. He told me I could just run a clarifier, and when I came back to pick up my bow another employee said he was wrong and I would likely need both for a clarifier to benefit me. We got my peep height set and I was so happy with the new strings and tubeless peep, until I got home and saw one of my limbs was cracked. I went back and while they deny breaking it they are fixing it. In the end it seems new strings and a quality tubeless peep will be my answer.
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I suggest building a home bow shop with a last chance ez green press. This is why no one touches my bow.
 
Ben C said:
That will be my next big purchase. As nervous as I am about learning to use a press I'm just as nervous about bringing it to a shop now.
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@Nutterbuster or someone else might know

Can you crack limbs by pressing withOUT fully relaxing limbs?

I must admit that I do not relax my limbs by turning the bolts out before pressing, despite hearing to do this.

My reasoning is that I do not press them past the point that they move during a normal draw. I can tell because when I pull up on the string, there just isn't near enough slack to reach my draw length.

How else could a bow shop crack a limb besides derailing/dry firing/uncovering a bow defect?

Is it critical to relax limbs before pressing? If so, I've gotten lucky then. I have no excuse not to because I always run my bolts bottomed out, so it isn't like I have to count turns or find some spot (just crank them back down).
 
raisins said:
@Nutterbuster or someone else might know

Can you crack limbs by pressing withOUT fully relaxing limbs?

I must admit that I do not relax my limbs by turning the bolts out before pressing, despite hearing to do this.

My reasoning is that I do not press them past the point that they move during a normal draw. I can tell because when I pull up on the string, there just isn't near enough slack to reach my draw length.

How else could a bow shop crack a limb besides derailing/dry firing/uncovering a bow defect?

Is it critical to relax limbs before pressing? If so, I've gotten lucky then. I have no excuse not to because I always run my bolts bottomed out, so it isn't like I have to count turns or find some spot (just crank them back down).
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The bow tech said "usually when we crack em in the press we hear it" lol. He said the crack was in the "usual spot" when a Bear bow cracks in a press, however my crack was shorter in length. Idk maybe it was a defect. When I was buying my bow they had to set one aside to return back to Bear because the cam was visibly bent.
 
I wouldn't use that shop ever again.

Invest the money you will/would have spent bringing your bow to the shop and use it to set up your own at home shop. Working on a bow is not difficult and you can learn how to do it by asking for help here and on ArcheryTalk.com. Then you'll be able to tweak your bow or perform simple tasks within minutes instead of all the hassle of driving to a bow shop, dealing with folks who don't care about your bow, paying for crap work etc.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune, I hope it all works out for you.
 
Ben C said:
The bow tech said "usually when we crack em in the press we hear it" lol. He said the crack was in the "usual spot" when a Bear bow cracks in a press, however my crack was shorter in length. Idk maybe it was a defect. When I was buying my bow they had to set one aside to return back to Bear because the cam was visibly bent.
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That shop would never see my money. When we crack them we usually hear them. How many they breaking. When I bought a new Bowtech back in 2012 the shop said they needed to call to see where to press from I asked for my bow untouched and went straight home and ordered a press. Working on your own stuff is not hard. Just write down measurements and what you do so if needed you can undo and start over. Oh and a twist or 3 in that original string would’ve brought that peep back in line.
 
Ok I skipped ahead and may be repeating. Number one. Don’t go back to that shop if they will just put in a peep or adjust it with out placing it at full draw. No no no. When you have a peep moved or replaced it should be drawn and placed. Then tied in and once tied in drawn again before payment and leaving. Twisting the d-loop and also having someone twist the peep. It can train it over time. Do away with the tube peep. I know some people like them but just go with a standard. If not done right it can effect string angle at draw. Therefore screwing everything up. Now I’m not a pro or anything like that but have been fortunate to learn from some of the best.
 
Sorry to hear about your experience. You can definitely learn to work on your own bow. It’s not something magical like they make it seem. DEFINITELY… DEFINITELY, write down everything you do to the bow. Sometimes you think you will remember a twist to this and that, but you might end up doing this many times and get to a point where you want to start over. Google is a great help but just remember to check multiple places to confirm you are getting the right answers. Especially from ANY forum. People make mistakes when posting.
 
I would also suggest if possible finding an awesome bow tech and asking him to teach you. I would ask the bow tech at our shop to teach me on my bows. I’d buy equipment and he would walk me through it.
 
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