So after doing some reading online and some of the posts here. I voted nay.
1.) In regards to Mr.Bear. I think there is an error in his argument about using POD to increase lethality of bow hunting which in turn help perserve bow hunting in general. Bow hunting is inherently not as effective as gun hunting, 99.9% of people would agree with this. Lethality=effective is true, but I feel you then disregard some of the spirit in which you are bow hunting in the first place. If all you care about is effectiveness, go crossbow or gun. Some of the muzzleloader community are saying the same thing. That modern technology and effectiveness in the newer 'muzzleloader' take away the true spirit of USING a muzzleloader, might as well get a regular rifle.
2.) Argument that human around the whole has been using chemical in their hunting arsenal for a long time is true, but what was acceptable in the past is not always acceptable now. Not talking about 'woke' whatever, just in general. The circumstances are different at different point of history. At this point, most hunting are done recreationally and some practices just are not acceptable. I hope this is not true, but most of us are not depending on hunting or else our family starves. So things like dynamite fishing, POD, and running whole herd off cliffs are not ok in today's world.
3.) Fair chase is honestly subjective, there is a 'general' agreement and official rules set by organizations. But as a community I don't think we are all the same in how we define 'far chase' and 'hunting'. One of my coworker is a back deck 'hunter'. He has a feeder in his backyard that he harvest deer from annually. The cell cam alert his phone, if he is home, he grab a 30-06 or crossbow, quietly walk to his deck and its a done deal. Not my style, but his argument is logical. Instead of scouting for a food source on public land, and setting up on the trail, he bringing the deer to him. Private land owner do the same thing by renovating their landscape to bring deer in like hinge cutting and planting food. Can't argue that it is more effective, but I said this to him, I think you are just harvesting now, not hunting. JMHO.
4.) Someone posted a good point. If we accept the use of POD in arrows, what strong objection would there be if we mix in the chemical in bait? Or feeder? What about spikey snares coated with the chemical?
5.) I'm going to touch a little bit on politics. So one of the main core argument is we should all be allow to use what we feel is right for us. That when the government make one more law, we loses a little more of our freedom. But I argue that sometimes we have to trust the process and that some laws does improve society as a whole. I remember reading that whitetail in America were close to extinction at one point, that with conservation programs and hunting regulations, they are actually overpopulated now. My father in law has a picture of his dad next to 6 hanging deer in the middle of July, told me that was just a random day harvest.
6.) In regards to public views, I say the hunting community will lose the general public if we started to embrace POD. This is based on my view that the general public are too lazy to look deeply into the topic, they will instantly think 'poison' and go the route of 'better safe then sorry', just say no.
1.) In regards to Mr.Bear. I think there is an error in his argument about using POD to increase lethality of bow hunting which in turn help perserve bow hunting in general. Bow hunting is inherently not as effective as gun hunting, 99.9% of people would agree with this. Lethality=effective is true, but I feel you then disregard some of the spirit in which you are bow hunting in the first place. If all you care about is effectiveness, go crossbow or gun. Some of the muzzleloader community are saying the same thing. That modern technology and effectiveness in the newer 'muzzleloader' take away the true spirit of USING a muzzleloader, might as well get a regular rifle.
2.) Argument that human around the whole has been using chemical in their hunting arsenal for a long time is true, but what was acceptable in the past is not always acceptable now. Not talking about 'woke' whatever, just in general. The circumstances are different at different point of history. At this point, most hunting are done recreationally and some practices just are not acceptable. I hope this is not true, but most of us are not depending on hunting or else our family starves. So things like dynamite fishing, POD, and running whole herd off cliffs are not ok in today's world.
3.) Fair chase is honestly subjective, there is a 'general' agreement and official rules set by organizations. But as a community I don't think we are all the same in how we define 'far chase' and 'hunting'. One of my coworker is a back deck 'hunter'. He has a feeder in his backyard that he harvest deer from annually. The cell cam alert his phone, if he is home, he grab a 30-06 or crossbow, quietly walk to his deck and its a done deal. Not my style, but his argument is logical. Instead of scouting for a food source on public land, and setting up on the trail, he bringing the deer to him. Private land owner do the same thing by renovating their landscape to bring deer in like hinge cutting and planting food. Can't argue that it is more effective, but I said this to him, I think you are just harvesting now, not hunting. JMHO.
4.) Someone posted a good point. If we accept the use of POD in arrows, what strong objection would there be if we mix in the chemical in bait? Or feeder? What about spikey snares coated with the chemical?
5.) I'm going to touch a little bit on politics. So one of the main core argument is we should all be allow to use what we feel is right for us. That when the government make one more law, we loses a little more of our freedom. But I argue that sometimes we have to trust the process and that some laws does improve society as a whole. I remember reading that whitetail in America were close to extinction at one point, that with conservation programs and hunting regulations, they are actually overpopulated now. My father in law has a picture of his dad next to 6 hanging deer in the middle of July, told me that was just a random day harvest.
6.) In regards to public views, I say the hunting community will lose the general public if we started to embrace POD. This is based on my view that the general public are too lazy to look deeply into the topic, they will instantly think 'poison' and go the route of 'better safe then sorry', just say no.
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