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Quitting Coffee for Season

Some of these scent control stories seems like they would take the fun right out of hunting. Play the wind, use milkweed, learn about thermals. You’re gonna get winded. EVERYONE gets winded. Whether they’re willing to blame themselves or not is a different story. It’s a part of hunting.
Agreed.

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Got winded 30 minutes ago by a 4 point. It came back looking. Still couldn't find me. He must be thinking, "This guy is in predator mode!" Don't you love when that happens?
 
Agreed.

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I used to be NUTS about scent control. AND I mean nuts. Ask my wife. Finally began to learn wind, thermals, and stealth to get to and out of sets. Began to calm down (again, ask my wife!). Anyway, last year I killed my first and likely only B&C - buck of a lifetime!!

I was at work all day, had my scrub clothes and a hoodie that hangs in my kitchen. My work boots that I use all summer to plant. No shower. Rush to the set. Used the wind and stealth for a fresh cut beanfield and a cold front passing thru.

Perfect wind, perfect conditions, and the luck of a curious old warrior scanning the field coming to my deke and a grunt call gave me an 8 yard shot.

Scent control had NOTHING to do with this hunt.

Enjoy your coffee. Reasonable scent control. And have FUN!!!

And don’t smoke. That’s bad for u.


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Some of these scent control stories seems like they would take the fun right out of hunting. Play the wind, use milkweed, learn about thermals. You’re gonna get winded. EVERYONE gets winded. Whether they’re willing to blame themselves or not is a different story. It’s a part of hunting.
The extent and severity of being winded is a matter of degree.
Close in, full nose in light wind and high humidity is going to elicit more extreme busts than a deer located on the fringes of our scent cone, at longer distances during dry, breezy conditions.

Odor busts are not an all or nothing affair. To what degree are we busted? Is it a full blown deer panic or something much less? No doubt in my mind that we get busted far more often than we realize.
The deer that briefly stops but shows no visible alarm, probably picked up a few molecules of our odor. They may take a second to analyze a faint human odor and continue on unalarmed, and offer a shot...either at that deer or at a following deer which actually may be the buck we want. Not all odor busts result in full blown deer panic. Reducing our odor tilts the odds slightly in our favor...and I need all the odds I can get.

I pay attention religiously to the wind. I'm a milkweed addict, which has proven to me, time and time again, that wind currents are much more complex than a lot of guys realize.

I've never experience hunting flat land. I've been hunting hills for 48 seasons now. Wind eddys and thermal behavior are not cut and dried.... High pressure sucking toward low pressure; Sometimes its swirling wind on low-pressure leeward slopes during moderate velocities that don't cause the same swirling pattern during mild velocities; Stable wind all day onhigh-pressure windward slopes but then start to shift as the sun gets lower, and a slight change of the direction the prevailing wind hits ridges and slopes is yet another complication; Falling, evening thermals on an East slope meeting air still in the sun on the South slope of that same hill makes air movement do tricky things along those thermal breaks...its a lot more complicated than just paying attention to the prevailing wind that's created by weather systems or hunting "the thermals". Sure, once the sun has completely set, thermals will settle and get consistent throughout the area, but while the sun is still shining on some areas which are adjacent to shaded areas, there is a break along those seams of differing temps and airflows. And those seams, and how they effect overall air behavior, change as the sun sets. Wind has micro patterns and those patterns change in relation to each other and change as temps change. Its very dynamic.

In a lot of hilly areas, wind behavior, at times, is so much more complicated that we can possibly predict 100%. And sure as crap, the wind will screw you just at the moment you have a 200" buck approaching. It happened to me years ago when I practiced sloppy odor reduction.

I don't view odor tactics and wind study as taking the fun out of the hunt. For me, its all part of the hunt. I enjoy the chess match.

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I used to be NUTS about scent control. AND I mean nuts. Ask my wife. Finally began to learn wind, thermals, and stealth to get to and out of sets. Began to calm down (again, ask my wife!). Anyway, last year I killed my first and likely only B&C - buck of a lifetime!!

I was at work all day, had my scrub clothes and a hoodie that hangs in my kitchen. My work boots that I use all summer to plant. No shower. Rush to the set. Used the wind and stealth for a fresh cut beanfield and a cold front passing thru.

Perfect wind, perfect conditions, and the luck of a curious old warrior scanning the field coming to my deke and a grunt call gave me an 8 yard shot.

Scent control had NOTHING to do with this hunt.

Enjoy your coffee. Reasonable scent control. And have FUN!!!

And don’t smoke. That’s bad for u.


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Congrats on that buck.
But what happens when the wind is only borderline perfect and the buck wanders slightly off from where you expect him to be? Wind direction is predictable but its not guaranteed. And its a whole lot less predictable in hilly, complex terrain. That's when odor reduction can make or break a hunt.

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Congrats on that buck.
But what happens when the wind is only borderline perfect and the buck wanders slightly off from where you expect him to be? Wind direction is predictable but its not guaranteed. And its a whole lot less predictable in hilly, complex terrain. That's when odor reduction can make or break a hunt.

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Also true, I just don't let scent control deter me from hunting if I did I wouldn't ever be able to go hunting after work which would reduce the days I can hunt by at least half if not more evern since having a child.

To me hunting is first and foremost about my enjoyment of nature and the hunt itself.

Then meat in the freezer, then big bucks. Once the first 2 needs are met or will be met the heck ya I'll practice good scent control, but still not to the point it effects my daily life routines.

I do what I reasonable can for each hunt. So I play the wind all the time unless I can't and if I can't I go to a plan C, D or observation spot just to get out and still come out with deer if I get lucky. Change at the truck, and leave hunt clothes in a dry bag when not in use. Wash and smoke them ever few hunts (yup, smoking my clothes I'm crazy too in my own ways, but I think it helps)

But coffee!?! Your crazy, which is fine too, you do you.

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Congrats on that buck.
But what happens when the wind is only borderline perfect and the buck wanders slightly off from where you expect him to be? Wind direction is predictable but its not guaranteed. And its a whole lot less predictable in hilly, complex terrain. That's when odor reduction can make or break a hunt.

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Absolutely true which is why I hunt 90% of the time with “hunt ready” packs of sport washed clothes, shower with sport wash, keep my boots scent free, use a scent tote, and use the tools I DO have! Because you are right that good scent control can also make or break. Did I say that my big boy buck was 90% luck?

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I'm a New Orleans Blend guy myself, brewed in a french press. I'm addicted to chicory
Press is the way to go. One side of my family drank Community dark roast and the other drank CDM coffee and chicory, deep I enjoy both.
 
I have a 30oz travel mug I fill up every morning at kwik trip on my way to school.

Coffee, water and cheap beer. God I love college.


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I am a irratable a-hole without coffee, hunting is supposed to be enjoyable, and I wont enjoy myself If I'm tired and the only thing I can think about is sleeping or a nice hot cup of coffee!
Besides coffee gets my bowels moving so I can evacuate them before I go in the woods in the morning and that's 1 less thing I have to worry bout while I am hunting.

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I drink coffee everyday. But I can't risk losing a sock if round two or three hits me out there. I'll wait and drink it once I'm done for the day, or while waiting to blood trail Mr bigs.
 
Just curious about urinating when Saddlehunting, are you able to open the front of the Saddle to pee in a bottle or do you have to climb down and do it? At my age I find my self having too go more often then I want.I took my self of the waiting list for a Kestral because I could not get any answers about this subject.
 
I'd say that depends on your set up. For me I go right out of the tree most of the time. A bottle works too.
 
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