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Rappelling setup

bj139 said:
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I get why he did that. But if you had a preset rope going up all the way and could clip into it. You wouldnt have to use a tether for limbs right? Maybe the first time to set the rope at its final place but if i leave paracord there i can just pull up my climbing rope, clip in and start one sticking right?
 
Sorry my page didnt refresh you already answered me
 
I thought oplux was supposed to be pretty tough against fraying. I bought some for my tether but i dont think my pocket is deep enough for a full setup anyways
 
I hunt public land and don't use preset lines. My plan is too either use 4 sticks with a moveable aider or single stick climb and rappel. May even rappel when four stick climbing.
 
Yazoo Hntr said:
So which is best for tether when single stick climbing?
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Pretty subjective. HTP is hardy and therefore easily moved up a tree. It is my go to for a tether when one sticking. OpLux is supple, packs down SUPER-easy, and runs well when rappelling. It frays after repeated use on bark though.
 
PEEJAY said:
What are your thoughts on this setup guys? 40ft of that rope woul be under 2 lbs i think...if i did my math right. View attachment 26836View attachment 26835
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My thoughts...you are spending way to much on gear that isn't really needed. I single stick / rap down and only use a figure 8 ($10 amazon), carabiner ($10 amazon) and 35ft of 10mm rope ($0.95 a foot).
 
what do i have there that isnt needed besides extra rope. i wouldnt be opposed to using a figure 8 it just seemed like for an extra 20 bucks i had more options on the ats. im not going down any rope without a backup so i consider the hollowblock needed.
that rope i got is 150ft for 87 dollars. i can always use good rope.
 
PEEJAY said:
what do i have there that isnt needed besides extra rope. i wouldnt be opposed to using a figure 8 it just seemed like for an extra 20 bucks i had more options on the ats. im not going down any rope without a backup so i consider the hollowblock needed.
that rope i got is 150ft for 87 dollars. i can always use good rope.
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You are in the right path. Practice a bunch at 5 feet.
 
PEEJAY said:
what do i have there that isnt needed besides extra rope. i wouldnt be opposed to using a figure 8 it just seemed like for an extra 20 bucks i had more options on the ats. im not going down any rope without a backup so i consider the hollowblock needed.
that rope i got is 150ft for 87 dollars. i can always use good rope.
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Why do you feel there is a need for a back up safety device when rappelling 20-35ft?

I’m all about being safe and to each their own but backing up a rappel line seems kinda redundant to me I guess depending on what is being used. I mean once ya start to rap down, why would one need to stop / have a need for a backup is my thoughts.
 
NikoTheBowHunter said:
Why do you feel there is a need for a back up safety device when rappelling 20-35ft?

I’m all about being safe and to each their own but backing up a rappel line seems kinda redundant to me I guess depending on what is being used. I mean once ya start to rap down, why would one need to stop / have a need for a backup is my thoughts.
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I use a autoblock to back up my atc in case my hand slips. Also allows me to pause the rappel to gather steps.


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NikoTheBowHunter said:
Why do you feel there is a need for a back up safety device when rappelling 20-35ft?

I’m all about being safe and to each their own but backing up a rappel line seems kinda redundant to me I guess depending on what is being used. I mean once ya start to rap down, why would one need to stop / have a need for a backup is my thoughts.
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You slip 20-35 ft and let me know how that feels for ya. its a 10 second task wrapping an extra prussik around your rappel line so you dont die. its 13 bucks... thhanks for your input but im gonna disagree.
 
If you are using a Petzl Verso or a Grivel Master Mono Belay device you would absolutely need a backup, but may not using a Madrock safeguard from what I have been learning?
 
PEEJAY said:
You slip 20-35 ft and let me know how that feels for ya. its a 10 second task wrapping an extra prussik around your rappel line so you dont die. its 13 bucks... thhanks for your input but im gonna disagree.
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With any device where I take my hand off the tail end of the rope I slide down uncontrolled, I would use a backup autoblock. If not, then I don't use any.
 
I searched and found Petzl did not test the GriGri for breaking strength they only tested at 100kG or 220lbs on a dynamic fall. When used to belay, the GriGri is only loaded to half the weight due to the pulley effect. I thought someone must have tested it to breaking but the closest I found was this video where the GriGri was loaded to 500 lbs and operated normally. I feel better now. I would like to see someone do this to a Safeguard but I suspect it would be similar.
 
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lhold450 said:
I have 40' of 8mm oplux, a madrock safeguard, and a spare biner in an Eastern Outdoors fleece pouch. It packs very tight and is under 2lbs.
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I have the exact same set up thanks to you Landon...I have been practicing with it about 3 times a week...thanks for all the time and help you gave me...ura good man Ihold450
 
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