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Rompola Buck Update

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Here’s a couple of pics from way back when of a buck I nicknamed Max after the Grinch’s “deer” he had pulling his sleigh. I had 4 encounters with him before I killed him with a 35 yard shot.
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There was a much bigger 8 pointer in the area at the time but I wanted this one. Probably should’ve let him go another year to see what he’d turn into. That is where you should be hitting them too boys and girls. Ran flat out for 40 yards and piled up


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DroptineKrazy said:
That's funny. I have a pic of my parents that was taken on their wedding day in the early 40's and my family certainly wasn't rich so some people certainly had cameras back then.
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It's just a guess here but my guess is your parents planned on getting married well in advance of the big day. Chances are pretty good there we others there that attended the event that came with cameras and perhaps your parents hired a professional photographer to take pictures. I don't see what that has to do with anything. Do you know for a fact that Mitch owned a camera when he was a kid?
Getting back to the original discussion regarding Mitch's biggest buck, the only things we know that are a fact is, everyone that inspected the buck, handled the buck or scored the buck verify that the buck was legitimate. That includes among others, seasoned scorers and a Conservation Officer. Any modification to the rack would have had to been done while the buck was a fresh kill because we have eyewitness accounts of seeing the buck right after recovery and pictures also exist of it at that time as well. So again every eyewitness confirms it was a legit buck. Only a fool would present a fabricated or fake deer to a Conservation Officer and an experienced group of scorers. These are the facts we know for certain. The other fact is Mitch refused to enter the buck to any formal records keeping origination for reasons known only to him. Outside of that everything else is simply speculation or sour grapes.
 
ricky racer said:
It's just a guess here but my guess is your parents planned on getting married well in advance of the big day. Chances are pretty good there we others there that attended the event that came with cameras and perhaps your parents hired a professional photographer to take pictures. I don't see what that has to do with anything. Do you know for a fact that Mitch owned a camera when he was a kid?
Getting back to the original discussion regarding Mitch's biggest buck, the only things we know that are a fact is, everyone that inspected the buck, handled the buck or scored the buck verify that the buck was legitimate. That includes among others, seasoned scorers and a Conservation Officer. Any modification to the rack would have had to been done while the buck was a fresh kill because we have eyewitness accounts of seeing the buck right after recovery and pictures also exist of it at that time as well. So again every eyewitness confirms it was a legit buck. Only a fool would present a fabricated or fake deer to a Conservation Officer and an experienced group of scorers. These are the facts we know for certain. The other fact is Mitch refused to enter the buck to any formal records keeping origination for reasons known only to him. Outside of that everything else is simply speculation or sour grapes.
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From what I've read, where Mitch was part of that measuring organization he was friends with all of those scorers.
 
What about the farm deer theory? If he was associated in some way with a farm that could really tip the scales to some sort of tampering while allowing for the buck to be real. And handily explain why his bucks look like... his bucks. I mean what if he were just baiting/supplementing wild (?) Deer to enhance their racks based on whatever farm practices would be?
 
Horn said:
What about the farm deer theory? If he was associated in some way with a farm that could really tip the scales to some sort of tampering while allowing for the buck to be real. And handily explain why his bucks look like... his bucks. I mean what if he were just baiting/supplementing wild (?) Deer to enhance their racks based on whatever farm practices would be?
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Didn't someone in this thread say they read somewhere that he had a relative that owned a deer farm?
 
DroptineKrazy said:
Didn't someone in this thread say they read somewhere that he had a relative that owned a deer farm?
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Something like that, I'm pretty sure. I didn't go researching it and find that info myself, nor know if it's accurate. I do think if a guy had the knowledge to grow farm deer antlers it's possible to translate those skills to wild deer. Assuming you could figure out their core area and then keep them there accordingly. A wild farmed deer hybrid I guess. Maybe an airport would provide just such a safe haven for my idea...
 
Maybe but I was just thinking the deer themselves came from a game farm. Just as plausible as shooting like 5 record book bucks right across from his house.
 
DroptineKrazy said:
From what I've read, where Mitch was part of that measuring organization he was friends with all of those scorers.
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So you would falsify records for a friend of yours? I think most, not all, people in any that capacity would have higher standards.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain how you alter a deers rack on a fresh killed buck. Again, people saw the buck as a fresh kill. He didn't just show up one day with a rack in his hands. Also keep in mind, Mitch never claimed to have killed a worlds record. He just killed a big buck and took it in to be measured. After that it just took on a life of its own.
 
ricky racer said:
It's just a guess here but my guess is your parents planned on getting married well in advance of the big day. Chances are pretty good there we others there that attended the event that came with cameras and perhaps your parents hired a professional photographer to take pictures. I don't see what that has to do with anything. Do you know for a fact that Mitch owned a camera when he was a kid?
Getting back to the original discussion regarding Mitch's biggest buck, the only things we know that are a fact is, everyone that inspected the buck, handled the buck or scored the buck verify that the buck was legitimate. That includes among others, seasoned scorers and a Conservation Officer. Any modification to the rack would have had to been done while the buck was a fresh kill because we have eyewitness accounts of seeing the buck right after recovery and pictures also exist of it at that time as well. So again every eyewitness confirms it was a legit buck. Only a fool would present a fabricated or fake deer to a Conservation Officer and an experienced group of scorers. These are the facts we know for certain. The other fact is Mitch refused to enter the buck to any formal records keeping origination for reasons known only to him. Outside of that everything else is simply speculation or sour grapes.
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My parents got married on the shores of Gurnet Strait which is just a few miles from where I live now. 5 people attended and that includes my parents, the priest and 2 witnesses. My dad left for the Navy about a week later.
 
Actually I think it's probably easier to pull the wool over the eyes of folks your very familiar with, folks you trust and that trust you. I'm not saying that's what happened. If you've been close with someone for several years, or decades, wouldn't a bad apple be able to exploit that trust?
 
DroptineKrazy said:
I belonged to a local sportsman's club way back in the day and the president, vice president and treasurer were all caught dipping into the funds to go on out of state hunting trips. Dishonest people come in all shapes and sizes :tearsofjoy:
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You sure have no problem disparaging people you don't know nor have ever met. I'm glad I don't have a view of people like that. It sounds like you hang out with a good bunch of guys.
 
DroptineKrazy said:
The dude had a record for being a peeping Tom so I can imagine the kind of people he hung out with.
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Im pretty sure all of the people that scored MR’S buck were official scorers, plus a conservation officer saw it. How many people do you know that would risk their career, reputation, position in an organization, etc. and lie for a guy that they are in a club with? Mitch convinced multiple guys, including a conservation officer to take part in a conspiracy and keep it up for decades? Or they were all just too dumb to realize it was fake?

I honestly don’t care whether it’s real or not but I would have a hard time telling everyone that saw the buck they are liars or idiots based on theories of people who never saw the deer.

As far as not getting the buck x rayed. I know two people in my life that if put into the situation of accomplishing something they were proud of and then being told by the world they where a liar they would flip the world the bird, take the buck and go home and then never show it again out of spite or their own ‘principles’. Is Mitch one of those guys? I don’t know.
 
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DroptineKrazy said:
Like I said before the G2's & G3's look to be coming off the same base not the top of the main beam independently just as the one panel scorer said.
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curious if you have read the actual B&C rules for making that determination? I read an article a couple years ago that quoted the language in the B&C rulebook used to make that determination with images of the rack that they sketched on to show how the language was applied. From that article it was pretty clear it should be counted as a normal point just like all of the official scorers except one determined. The fact that one man can make that decision and then refuse to let anyone else score it is odd to me.
 
ricky racer said:
You sure have no problem disparaging people you don't know nor have ever met. I'm glad I don't have a view of people like that. It sounds like you hang out with a good bunch of guys.
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I learned long ago not to trust anybody until they earned my trust. I didn't mention any names or point any fingers I simply stated there is no proof either way of what kind of people he hung out with. Also, the people I was talking about at my sportsman's club were not any aquaintances of mine. That incident happened about 2 weeks after I joined and the club shut down shortly thereafter because of it.
 
GCTerpfan said:
curious if you have read the actual B&C rules for making that determination? I read an article a couple years ago that quoted the language in the B&C rulebook used to make that determination with images of the rack that they sketched on to show how the language was applied. From that article it was pretty clear it should be counted as a normal point just like all of the official scorers except one determined. The fact that one man can make that decision and then refuse to let anyone else score it is odd to me.
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Right! What makes that single guy the king czar of scoring? That doesn't seem right, especially if they're plenty of other qualified people who feel differently
 
GCTerpfan said:
curious if you have read the actual B&C rules for making that determination? I read an article a couple years ago that quoted the language in the B&C rulebook used to make that determination with images of the rack that they sketched on to show how the language was applied. From that article it was pretty clear it should be counted as a normal point just like all of the official scorers except one determined. The fact that one man can make that decision and then refuse to let anyone else score it is odd to me.
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I've never been an official scorer or ever wanted to be but as I understood the rule there has to be separation between the points in order to measure the main beam in between the points. They have adjusted some of the rules over the years and I may be thinking of how they ruled such things long ago and it's different now. idk
 
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