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Rompola Buck Update

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DroptineKrazy said:
I've never been an official scorer or ever wanted to be but as I understood the rule there has to be separation between the points in order to measure the main beam in between the points. They have adjusted some of the rules over the years and I may be thinking of how they ruled such things long ago and it's different now. idk
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it’s been a while since I read the article but if I remember correctly you extend the line of the points down to the main beam to determine if the point comes out of the top of the beam. The webbing between the points doesn’t matter. It was close, too close for one guy to decide, but appeared to be a normal point. Hopefully, I can find the article again. If I do I’ll post it.
 
DroptineKrazy said:
I learned long ago not to trust anybody until they earned my trust. I didn't mention any names or point any fingers I simply stated there is no proof either way of what kind of people he hung out with. Also, the people I was talking about at my sportsman's club were not any aquaintances of mine. That incident happened about 2 weeks after I joined and the club shut down shortly thereafter because of it.
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Did you not cast dispersions on Mitch by basically calling him a liar and cheat? And you did that without ever meeting the guy nor having any proof that the deer he shot was lot legitimate in spite of all the eyewitness accounts. You insinuated that Gary Berger, Lee Holbrook and Al Brown lied or covered up for Mitch impugning their character yet presented no evidence to support your claim.

You dissed the Conservation Officer, Bill Bailey who inspected the buck and aged it at 7-1/2 years old. Bailey said “I’m convinced the deer and the antlers are real, I’ve seen them. How can anyone who hasn’t seen the deer claim otherwise?” Do you have knowledge that Bailey did not? Bailey also said “I saw the deer, I saw it closely. I handled the deer” and added that there were “no questionable open doors with it.” What do you know that Bailey, an 18 year veteran CO didn't know?

Again, how do you propose that the deer's antlers were faked between the time Mitch killed the deer and drug it out of the woods? If you know the antlers were fabricated, tell me how he did that on a fresh kill and do such an amazing job that none of the eyewitnesses, who most would consider experts, could tell? You seem to know that none of them were honest so with the knowledge you have, how were the antlers faked?
 
FWIW, I couldn't produce pictures of my first two bucks and that was during the late 70's. I tried finding them once before for a previous thread on "first bucks". I honestly don't even remember if pictures of those bucks were even taken. Granted they weren't world class bucks but, being they were my firsts with gun and bow respectively, I still couldn't have been much more happy with them at the time.
 
ricky racer said:
Did you not cast dispersions on Mitch by basically calling him a liar and cheat? And you did that without ever meeting the guy nor having any proof that the deer he shot was lot legitimate in spite of all the eyewitness accounts. You insinuated that Gary Berger, Lee Holbrook and Al Brown lied or covered up for Mitch impugning their character yet presented no evidence to support your claim.

You dissed the Conservation Officer, Bill Bailey who inspected the buck and aged it at 7-1/2 years old. Bailey said “I’m convinced the deer and the antlers are real, I’ve seen them. How can anyone who hasn’t seen the deer claim otherwise?” Do you have knowledge that Bailey did not? Bailey also said “I saw the deer, I saw it closely. I handled the deer” and added that there were “no questionable open doors with it.” What do you know that Bailey, an 18 year veteran CO didn't know?

Again, how do you propose that the deer's antlers were faked between the time Mitch killed the deer and drug it out of the woods? If you know the antlers were fabricated, tell me how he did that on a fresh kill and do such an amazing job that none of the eyewitnesses, who most would consider experts, could tell? You seem to know that none of them were honest so with the knowledge you have, how were the antlers faked?
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Isn't every comment on this thread purely speculation? If not then who here has any first hand knowledge whether the buck was legit or not? If not then who can vouch for any of the people involved? I'd be willing to bet that 99.9% of the hunter's in the United States and Canada would have let the buck be x-rayed to prove that it was real if it was their buck. I know I would have.
 
DroptineKrazy said:
Isn't every comment on this thread purely speculation? If not then who here has any first hand knowledge whether the buck was legit or not? If not then who can vouch for any of the people involved? I'd be willing to bet that 99.9% of the hunter's in the United States and Canada would have let the buck be x-rayed to prove that it was real if it was their buck. I know I would have.
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Could be haystacks or…

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DroptineKrazy said:
Isn't every comment on this thread purely speculation? If not then who here has any first hand knowledge whether the buck was legit or not? If not then who can vouch for any of the people involved? I'd be willing to bet that 99.9% of the hunter's in the United States and Canada would have let the buck be x-rayed to prove that it was real if it was their buck. I know I would have.
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As I've said repeatedly, the only facts we have are the pictures, eyewitness accounts which all vouch for the authenticity of the buck, a score done by respectable CBM and B&C measures that again vouched for the authenticity of the buck.
You're right about 99.9% of hunters would probably let their bucks be x-rayed but Mitch is that .01% that chose not to. Mitch is also one of the .01% of hunters with a record of taking trophy bucks that also posses the skill to find and kill a world class buck. With all of those factors considered I think it's a shame to have people disparage the person, whom they've never met and and find fault with a buck they've never seen and call him a fraud.
 
DroptineKrazy said:
That's a 205 inch non typical not a typical. 205 is not that big as far as non typicals go. The world record is over 330.
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Over 330”…no hunter gets credit for that…as it should be.;)

Mitch’s alleged buck “scored” 216 & 5/8 which (if legit) bests several non-typical state records and isn’t far off from many others.

F&S reported that in 188 years they’ve recorded “a little more than 3000 net 200”+ bucks. 16 on average per year”, ignoring any trends.

205” is smaller than some of the top bucks ever, but still seems exceptionally big to me, so far as scored deer go.
 
ricky racer said:
As I've said repeatedly, the only facts we have are the pictures, eyewitness accounts which all vouch for the authenticity of the buck, a score done by respectable CBM and B&C measures that again vouched for the authenticity of the buck.
You're right about 99.9% of hunters would probably let their bucks be x-rayed but Mitch is that .01% that chose not to. Mitch is also one of the .01% of hunters with a record of taking trophy bucks that also posses the skill to find and kill a world class buck. With all of those factors considered I think it's a shame to have people disparage the person, whom they've never met and and find fault with a buck they've never seen and call him a fraud.
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Ok. Fine,but do you truly believe he shot multiple record book bucks in such a small area across from his house in an area that most people that live and hunt near there say they have never seen a buck that scored anywhere near a B&C. From what others who are familiar with that area say, including some people on this forum, that a 140" buck would be considered a giant. It also was supposedly a very heavily hunted area too.
 
Plebe said:
Over 330”…no hunter gets credit for that…as it should be.;)

Mitch’s alleged buck “scored” 216 & 5/8 which (if legit) bests several non-typical state records and isn’t far off from many others.

F&S reported that in 188 years they’ve recorded “a little more than 3000 net 200”+ bucks. 16 on average per year”, ignoring any trends.

205” is smaller than some of the top bucks ever, but still seems exceptionally big to me, so far as scored deer go.
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The world record non typical was found in Missouri in 1981 and I believe scored 333 7/8".
 
DroptineKrazy said:
Ok. Fine,but do you truly believe he shot multiple record book bucks in such a small area across from his house in an area that most people that live and hunt near there say they have never seen a buck that scored anywhere near a B&C. From what others who are familiar with that area say, including some people on this forum, that a 140" buck would be considered a giant. It also was supposedly a very heavily hunted area too.
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I have no reason to doubt Mitch's word anymore than I have reason to doubt yours when you say you passed up a big 8 point to shoot a 1-1/2 year old fork horn.
 
DroptineKrazy said:
Ok. Fine,but do you truly believe he shot multiple record book bucks in such a small area across from his house in an area that most people that live and hunt near there say they have never seen a buck that scored anywhere near a B&C. From what others who are familiar with that area say, including some people on this forum, that a 140" buck would be considered a giant. It also was supposedly a very heavily hunted area too.
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Maybe question whether a hunter taking big bucks would truthfully tell the general public exactly where those bucks came from, as well?
 
Plebe said:
Maybe question whether a hunter taking big bucks would truthfully tell the general public exactly where those bucks came from, as well?
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That's quite possible too. Yet if that was the case wouldn't that disqualify him from the record books?
 
Plebe said:
Yes, found. As I said, no hunter gets credit for that, and I find that enjoyable.
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