Been my experience beam length and mass are where the numbers really can change. Also longer brows help immensely as few deer have much over 3” brows but throw some daggers out there on fat bases and you can easily pick up 5-7” over an average brow with pencil horns. Carry that mass into the second or third circumference and that’s another 3-5”. I think mass is hard to judge unless it’s just a log beamed beast. Depends on if the oval is vertical or horizontal how they look from the side.
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Show Me Your Scored Buck
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Does anyone have a dataset with the individual measurements? Doesn't even need to be any particular recordbook. I'd be interested to see if there is any correlation between beam length and spread. And beam length and mass.
Sorry, yes Illinois
I can only speak of my personal observations, on bucks I've killed or bucks I have observed. I get to watch dozens of bucks throughout the year so I think that I have a pretty good handle on buck evaluation.
I've not seen any relation to beam length versus spread versus mass.
I think it's simply the sum of all of the measurements. That's the only way those sticky trophy tapes would work.
All gross scores, scored by me with the exception of the one my neighbor scored. All in Western MD
105"
122"
106"
144" by neighbor
113"
106"
105"
122"
106"
144" by neighbor
113"
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First 3 pics are of a deer I chased for years in deep southeast Mississippi dubbed “Big 9”.. Weighed 210 lbs and green scored 148” 4 times to be sure as an 8 point and was aged at 6 1/2 years old, officially scored into the Magnolia State Record books at 139 7/8. Ranks #13 in my county and holds the largest 8 point record… Last 2 pics are a southern Illinois hill country 9 point shot out of my phantom November 2020 weighed 240 and scored 130 3/8
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Body size is the biggest thing I’ve found to be the difference.
hokiehunter373
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The pic of you with that 8 is just wow. Awesome deer! Congrats
Appreciate it, google “Giant 8 taken in pearl river county” and you’ll find the Mississippi Sportsman article wrote on him
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That’s a hell of a buck for Pearl River county, I ain’t too far from you in Saucier chasing these pine comb eaters.
Woods haven’t been the same since I dropped the hammer on him. Appreciate it ! Y’all got some good pine goats by y’all as well
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tyson12590
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Iowa 2011, 225 pounds dressed, 150" net, 4.5 year old lab aged.
Iowa, 2015, 122" gross, tooth wear suggests 3.5 year old, not weighed, but probably 200+ live weight.
Iowa, 2020, 124" green gross, not weighed, most likely only a 2.5 year old. And no, I'm not stoned in the photo!
PA, 2019, 119 gross 109 net, 165 dressed, teeth suggest 4.5 year-old.
PA 2010, 130 gross 124 net, 165 dressed, 4.5 years lab aged.
PA 2008, had this buck walk right thru my shooting lanes in bow season while I was still pulling my bow up from the ground. This pic was taken in my plot for 3 hours on the 1st afternoon of rifle season. I could have easily, legally shot it out the back door but that would be cheating. He was back again on the 2nd day for another 1.5 hours. A neighbor shot him on day 3.
I'd field judged him to be 140", 4 or 5 year old.
I got to score him after the neighbor killed him...140-1/8"...I was off only 1/8th inch with my on-the-hoof estimate.
Iowa, 2015, 122" gross, tooth wear suggests 3.5 year old, not weighed, but probably 200+ live weight.
Iowa, 2020, 124" green gross, not weighed, most likely only a 2.5 year old. And no, I'm not stoned in the photo!
PA, 2019, 119 gross 109 net, 165 dressed, teeth suggest 4.5 year-old.
PA 2010, 130 gross 124 net, 165 dressed, 4.5 years lab aged.
PA 2008, had this buck walk right thru my shooting lanes in bow season while I was still pulling my bow up from the ground. This pic was taken in my plot for 3 hours on the 1st afternoon of rifle season. I could have easily, legally shot it out the back door but that would be cheating. He was back again on the 2nd day for another 1.5 hours. A neighbor shot him on day 3.
I'd field judged him to be 140", 4 or 5 year old.
I got to score him after the neighbor killed him...140-1/8"...I was off only 1/8th inch with my on-the-hoof estimate.
Ohio 2012, 129 gross 121 net, not weighed, 4.5 year old lab aged
He had decent mass...helped the score.
Ohio 2018, 115 gross 113 net, not weighed, teeth suggest 4.5 years old
PA 1992, 113" gross, 175 dressed, assume 3.5 year old
This buck is a story. Legitimate 10x6 in 2019, Estimated in the 160s on the hoof, body was not very impressive. Pedicels were uneven...left pedicel was low on the forehead almost coming out of the skull at the eye cup.
Neighbor found the sheds...with an estimated spread, the buck would have scored ~162"
Here's the crazy part, this buck went from a 10x6 in 2019 to a clean 5x5 in 2020. I'm absolutely 100% certain it's the same buck due to the uneven pedicels...I had a ton of pics and videos. Buck got shot by a pain in the rear "trespasser" in November ...reportedly scored 168". Not sure about his age.
He had decent mass...helped the score.
Ohio 2018, 115 gross 113 net, not weighed, teeth suggest 4.5 years old
PA 1992, 113" gross, 175 dressed, assume 3.5 year old
This buck is a story. Legitimate 10x6 in 2019, Estimated in the 160s on the hoof, body was not very impressive. Pedicels were uneven...left pedicel was low on the forehead almost coming out of the skull at the eye cup.
Neighbor found the sheds...with an estimated spread, the buck would have scored ~162"
Here's the crazy part, this buck went from a 10x6 in 2019 to a clean 5x5 in 2020. I'm absolutely 100% certain it's the same buck due to the uneven pedicels...I had a ton of pics and videos. Buck got shot by a pain in the rear "trespasser" in November ...reportedly scored 168". Not sure about his age.
PA 1984, My 1st "good buck", Game comm scored 126+ net, couldda shouldda grossed near 140 but he had ~10" of breakage, 202 pounds dressed, 5.5 years old
PA 2016, This buck looks like a yearling or 2.5 at best but tooth wear said 3.5. Interesting little 5x3 rack 102 gross 89 net. Not weighed
PA 2016, This buck looks like a yearling or 2.5 at best but tooth wear said 3.5. Interesting little 5x3 rack 102 gross 89 net. Not weighed
Here’s the buck I shot last Saturday plus the actual score sheet.
143 6/8 gross
137 6/8 net.
143 6/8 gross
137 6/8 net.