Show Me Your Scored Buck

[oldsouth]

Didn't measure the left deer but the right was gross 147 5/8.

 

[Nutterbuster]

Also @Nutterbuster I don't think that quiz is accurate... There is no way in hell that gangly 6 point makes 116"+

Yeah, I have no idea if they taped the deer or not. I also don't know how much I trust their scoring ap.

I have found the following since I started paying attention to deer and their scores.

1. 8 pointers are really handicapped when the tape comes out. @Deltahuntr's big 8 is extremely impressive to me. If you're into score and an 8 walks out, he probably doesn't break into the books unless he gives you a heart attack.
2. Width and generally how "wide open" a deer's antlers look really help his score. I guess because that kinda gets measured 3 times (inside spread, tip-to-tip, and widest span)
3. It's really hard to gauge a deer just by looking at a picture. Some angles really help/hurt deer.
4. Body size can definitely make me underestimate a buck by a good 10-20". I get that in theory a bucks eye is 4" around, his ears are 6" long, and his ear tip spread should be about 15-16"...but that Texas look (big antlers on a small body) gets my juices going and the same rack on a 250lb corn and acorn fed behemoth just doesn't look as impressive at first glance.
5. I generally tend to underscore

 

[Gator]

Also @Nutterbuster I don't think that quiz is accurate... There is no way in hell that gangly 6 point makes 116"+... Not to boast but I am pretty good at guessing deer and got 3/10. I guessed my buddy's 2 eights right down to the inch and I am usually within 5" as far as gross score goes. These bucks are live, on film, who is to say they were harvested and scored and during what period? I would take that test and the results with a grain of salt for sure. The trickiest area for scoring by eye is the 135"-165" range for sure but between 100"-135" and anything over 165" with a clean typical frame is pretty easy guess work. Yes, some surprise you, but I have rarely been outside of 10" on a gross guess since I started taping and watching people score deer.

Maybe I'll get some of my euros together and tape them, you guys can post guesses and after a week ill post the results.

Now to find the time to do so...

Hindsight I should of just posted my pics and asked for guesses.

 

[Gator]

Yeah, I have no idea if they taped the deer or not. I also don't know how much I trust their scoring ap.

I have found the following since I started paying attention to deer and their scores.

1. 8 pointers are really handicapped when the tape comes out. @Deltahuntr's big 8 is extremely impressive to me. If you're into score and an 8 walks out, he probably doesn't break into the books unless he gives you a heart attack.
2. Width and generally how "wide open" a deer's antlers look really help his score. I guess because that kinda gets measured 3 times (inside spread, tip-to-tip, and widest span)
3. It's really hard to gauge a deer just by looking at a picture. Some angles really help/hurt deer.
4. Body size can definitely make me underestimate a buck by a good 10-20". I get that in theory a bucks eye is 4" around, his ears are 6" long, and his ear tip spread should be about 15-16"...but that Texas look (big antlers on a small body) gets my juices going and the same rack on a 250lb corn and acorn fed behemoth just doesn't look as impressive at first glance.
5. I generally tend to underscore

What's this tip to tip measurement? I know the P&Y sheet has it listed but I don't remember it getting added into the actual score anywhere (but also just going from memory).

 

[Mitchellfarmer1982]

I would have guessed mine to score higher. I been looking at trail cam pics for 4 years and thought I had a solid 150....nope.

 

[MSbowhunter48]

Yeah, I have no idea if they taped the deer or not. I also don't know how much I trust their scoring ap.

I have found the following since I started paying attention to deer and their scores.

1. 8 pointers are really handicapped when the tape comes out. @Deltahuntr's big 8 is extremely impressive to me. If you're into score and an 8 walks out, he probably doesn't break into the books unless he gives you a heart attack.
2. Width and generally how "wide open" a deer's antlers look really help his score. I guess because that kinda gets measured 3 times (inside spread, tip-to-tip, and widest span)
3. It's really hard to gauge a deer just by looking at a picture. Some angles really help/hurt deer.
4. Body size can definitely make me underestimate a buck by a good 10-20". I get that in theory a bucks eye is 4" around, his ears are 6" long, and his ear tip spread should be about 15-16"...but that Texas look (big antlers on a small body) gets my juices going and the same rack on a 250lb corn and acorn fed behemoth just doesn't look as impressive at first glance.
5. I generally tend to underscore

One thing to remember is width is only one measurement. But to your point if he’s wide and carries out his width for most his rack, then that normally equates to long main beam measurements. Long main beams and tine length do a lot more for score than any other measurement in my opinion.

 

[Petrichor]

5/10. Mostly underscore with one over.

 

[Nutterbuster]

What's this tip to tip measurement? I know the P&Y sheet has it listed but I don't remember it getting added into the actual score anywhere (but also just going from memory).

I don't know how the math works since I've always just punched the measurements into the B&C calculator. But I know it asks for inside spread at the widest point parallell the the antler bases (or something along those lines...don't measure all cattywampus), tis5ance between the tips of the main beams, and the widest measurement parallel the antler bases.

Tines and main beam length definitely add up but it seems to me looking at record book photos that a wide deer scores a good bit better than one with identical tines but a higher/narrower/closed rack.

 

[Gator]

I don't know how the math works since I've always just punched the measurements into the B&C calculator. But I know it asks for inside spread at the widest point parallell the the antler bases (or something along those lines...don't measure all cattywampus), tis5ance between the tips of the main beams, and the widest measurement parallel the antler bases.

Tines and main beam length definitely add up but it seems to me looking at record book photos that a wide deer scores a good bit better than one with identical tines but a higher/narrower/closed rack.

Agreed it asks for those measurement but only one spread measurement actually count (again from memory). The others are just for rack identification or something along those lines. 4 mass on each side, tines and main beam length and spread and for typical, it's basically the shorter tine from each side length unless you are talking gross and not net numbers. Most guys giving numbers on the internet will give you the biggest possible number which means gross and most likely green gross score.

 

[BackSpasm]

I've found that I am more apt to mis-score deer out of my region. I watch these shows in Kansas and Alberta and see these huge bodied deer with what I perceive to be a relatively smaller rack and they end up scoring 150-160. Body size Is a huge confounder for field judging. I tend to over-estimate smaller bodied deer than the ones in Tennessee and under-estimate the big boys

 

[BenG]

Also @Nutterbuster I don't think that quiz is accurate... There is no way in hell that gangly 6 point makes 116"+... Not to boast but I am pretty good at guessing deer and got 3/10. I guessed my buddy's 2 eights right down to the inch and I am usually within 5" as far as gross score goes. These bucks are live, on film, who is to say they were harvested and scored and during what period? I would take that test and the results with a grain of salt for sure. The trickiest area for scoring by eye is the 135"-165" range for sure but between 100"-135" and anything over 165" with a clean typical frame is pretty easy guess work. Yes, some surprise you, but I have rarely been outside of 10" on a gross guess since I started taping and watching people score deer.

Maybe I'll get some of my euros together and tape them, you guys can post guesses and after a week ill post the results.

Now to find the time to do so...

I was really surprised at how high some of those deer scored as well. Not saying the scores are wrong but I think the quiz is intended to trick us.

 

[ThePennsylvanian]

112" gross, 159lbs dressed.

 

[Letemgrowitllshow]

I got 2 of 10 correct, but the 8 I got wrong I underscored them all. I'm cool with that

 

[OspreyZB]

I don't know how the math works since I've always just punched the measurements into the B&C calculator. But I know it asks for inside spread at the widest point parallell the the antler bases (or something along those lines...don't measure all cattywampus), tis5ance between the tips of the main beams, and the widest measurement parallel the antler bases.

Tines and main beam length definitely add up but it seems to me looking at record book photos that a wide deer scores a good bit better than one with identical tines but a higher/narrower/closed rack.

Only the inside spread gets added to the score and it can't exceed the longer main beam measurement. Generally width is the least important measurement for a deer to score high.

 

[Anobody]

5/10 correct been lucky to see a lot deer similar in size and the ones I missed I was under by the next amount of inches down

 

[elk yinzer]

A couple I know off the top of my head and have decent photos of

123" gross




127" gross



This 6 point scored 112". He's probably my favorite buck kill. Frame is a touch bigger than the first two. Hard to score high without the tines as you observed with how hard it is for 8's to get up there.



All big woods Pennsylvania deer scored by me. I never weigh them, all adult deer but none were exceptionally large bodied. Probably 150ish.

I have several in the 90-110 range that I've never measured I may later.

 

[ImThere]

3/10 I underscored all of the rest 1 selection. I got the three smallest deer correct! Lol


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[CooterBrown]

4/10 5 low 1 high. Man, a baseball player would be proud of that record.

 

[thedutchtouch]

Were you high or low consistently? And what state do you hunt if you don't mind me asking?

I was more low than high, the only one I got right was the smallest one, but I was usually only 5-10 inches off. Hunt in Maryland but pretty new so boots on the ground time is lower, I've seen one single deer that would measure 100+ while hunting. He's my new "Target buck" meaning I'll walk back to the same area I saw him once.

 

[Mitchellfarmer1982]

I hunt public lands here in Arkansas and the guys around here call the 120" class deer 160"s so it wasnt until I actually started putting a tape to them that I started seeing how bad off things were.