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Single step and aider

LAKY

LAKY

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With Cranford going out of business and selling out of inventory, I thought I'd see if anyone was still using this method or had tried and moved away. I have Cranford rope steps, and I had made an amsteel daisy chain with webbing footloop, but never really got around to using it much.
 
LAKY said:
With Cranford going out of business and selling out of inventory, I thought I'd see if anyone was still using this method or had tried and moved away. I have Cranford rope steps, and I had made an amsteel daisy chain with webbing footloop, but never really got around to using it much.
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I did. I found that the aider being long makes a kick out more likely. I really wanted it to work. But on a tree with a lean it was sketchy. If the step moves, the aider moves. Just because it did not work well for me dosent mean you should not give it a try.
 
LAKY said:
With Cranford going out of business and selling out of inventory, I thought I'd see if anyone was still using this method or had tried and moved away. I have Cranford rope steps, and I had made an amsteel daisy chain with webbing footloop, but never really got around to using it much.
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Did you try it?
Maybe you can teach me something if it works for you.
 
GeoFish said:
Did you try it?
Maybe you can teach me something if it works for you.
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Not yet. I will when I have enough time to give it a fair shot. I just can't see how it's much different than kick out possibilities with 2TC. But, with this, you're not having to move tethers up and down. I use the steps as is without an aider, and I can get them stable.
 
I have done it with bolts and it works very well. Tried it with steps and it wasn’t as steady. I like 2TC better than either, though.
 
I am looking at this again. If I can find a solid strap on step and I climb with my tether and linesman this should work on most straight trees. I have tried just about every step on the market, Cranford, Pioneer, Squirrel, Treehopper and Apex. All were tried with Daisy Chain/ Truckers hitch and tree step strap. The Treehopper worked OK, all the others hinged making the steps unstable. When I tried the Apex steps and a daisy chain/truckers hitch the steps were not tight enough.
But the Apex with a tree step strap work the best. The problem is threading the long strap through the buckle and attaching the steps with gloves on.
I have a possible solution comming. CGM is making me some straps using the AustriAlpin frame buckles. I hope they get the steps as tight as the strap and buckle. They will be quick attach and weigh less then the buckle. They will look something like this.
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Should be quicker, attach with gloves and and save some weight.
 
GeoFish said:
I am looking at this again. If I can find a solid strap on step and I climb with my tether and linesman this should work on most straight trees. I have tried just about every step on the market, Cranford, Pioneer, Squirrel, Treehopper and Apex. All were tried with Daisy Chain/ Truckers hitch and tree step strap. The Treehopper worked OK, all the others hinged making the steps unstable. When I tried the Apex steps and a daisy chain/truckers hitch the steps were not tight enough.
But the Apex with a tree step strap work the best. The problem is threading the long strap through the buckle and attaching the steps with gloves on.
I have a possible solution comming. CGM is making me some straps using the AustriAlpin frame buckles. I hope they get the steps as tight as the strap and buckle. They will be quick attach and weigh less then the buckle. They will look something like this.
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Should be quicker, attach with gloves and and save some weight.
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Very interested in this. Keep us posted.
 
okccj said:
Very interested in this. Keep us posted.
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I have not gotten my straps yet, mix up in shipping.
I have tried this climbing method again and its not for me.
The aider must be 3 times your step distance, so for 16" your aider is 48" long. For me the longer the aider the more sensitive it is on a tree with a little lean. Also since you install the steps directly above each other it is not as stable as a offset aider, such as used on sticks.
 
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