Starting to learn video editing...

[cb750]

This is crazy. I used to be a commercial photographer, went to school for it made a living on it etc.. back when film was still better than digital but the switch was happening. I understand very little of what is being talked about now. That being said the Mrs. Used to manage a pretty good photo/video store with lots of pros as consumers. If you guys have some fear questions I can try and get an answer either from her or one of the guys that still works there.

Secondly. I know he's not on here much and is new to a lot of this stuff but @Digger1 used to build drones and knows a thing or 2 about them.

Given my past I have been wanting to get into videoing my hunts etc.. I tried with turkey this year but everything happened so fast with my set up that I never got the camera out of the bag. I like where your head is at @IkemanTX in terms of future proofing. It was said here earlier too that most aren't ready for 4K just yet. I'm sticking with some simple digital cameras I've got kicking around here and a Sony action cam. I like but believe the GoPro is probably better.

 

[cb750]

Oh and we Mac for most of our editing. But that was back with photoshopped 3 and 4.
Here's some stuff I got from a couple decades ago. All film.

 

[IkemanTX]

Let me ask yall this. I've mentioned to flingin but I know he has a busy schedule. Im videoing for this whole Canada deal. Would anyone be interested in making a short film out of it for me till I get a computer.

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If I had some experience at all, I’d offer. But, I doubt something that extensive is ANYWHERE near my skills. I’m still doing very elementary stuff st this point.

I am planning on filming some scouting/setup stuff this pre-season and maybe a little candid stuff throughout the season (fair weather only, since I don’t have waterproofing).
But, I definitely don’t have equipment for in-tree filming. No optical zoom camcorder, no camera arm, no POV camera... so I don’t expect a whole lot out of it.

I doubt I will be doing much posting until post-season scouting comes around, because that can be done with much less gear.

 

[Blinginpse]

If I had some experience at all, I’d offer. But, I doubt something that extensive is ANYWHERE near my skills. I’m still doing very elementary stuff st this point.

I like the sitka films platform. Way they do things. Im wanting it to be good so.can share with family friends and the internet as what it's like for a dairy farmer to get away

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[IkemanTX]

Serious filmers, if you were starting from scratch.... would you be looking at a prosumer video camera, or a mirrorless DSLR for your main camera?

The DSLR looks to be pretty pricy to get setup with, but probably a better looking finished product.

Pros: absolutely astounding finished look, massive sensors, shallow depth of fields, smooth bokeh, ultra crisp focus, and truer colors, also useable for a photography setup....(kind of an all in one)

Cons: at least 2 lenses to cover all needed focus lengths, less one-handed control, more complex settings setups, shallow depth of field leading to possible out of focus shots, more expensive complete package.


The prosumer camcorders look dead simple...

Pros: LOTS of physical buttons for field adjustments, integrated lens covering wide angle and zoom needs, deeper depth of field makes it easier to draw focus on a moving animal, multiple audio inputs for lavaliere and camera mics, basically a buy once kind of setup.

Cons: not as good looking final video, smaller sensor, lower 4K frame rates for the price, lack of flat/log filming profiles, more color correction needed in post, lower quality color even after post work, deeper depth of field yielding a less artistic feel....

If you were getting back into it from the ground up, and had a background with DSLR platforms so learning to use one wasn’t an issue, what would you choose?

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[flinginairos]

Serious filmers, if you were starting from scratch.... would you be looking at a prosumer video camera, or a mirrorless DSLR for your main camera?

The DSLR looks to be pretty pricy to get setup with, but probably a better looking finished product.

Pros: absolutely astounding finished look, massive sensors, shallow depth of fields, smooth bokeh, ultra crisp focus, and truer colors, also useable for a photography setup....(kind of an all in one)

Cons: at least 2 lenses to cover all needed focus lengths, less one-handed control, more complex settings setups, shallow depth of field leading to possible out of focus shots, more expensive complete package.


The prosumer camcorders look dead simple...

Pros: LOTS of physical buttons for field adjustments, integrated lens covering wide angle and zoom needs, deeper depth of field makes it easier to draw focus on a moving animal, multiple audio inputs for lavaliere and camera mics, basically a buy once kind of setup.

Cons: not as good looking final video, smaller sensor, lower 4K frame rates for the price, lack of flat/log filming profiles, more color correction needed in post, lower quality color even after post work, deeper depth of field yielding a less artistic feel....

If you were getting back into it from the ground up, and had a background with DSLR platforms so learning to use one wasn’t an issue, what would you choose?

@catman529 @flinginairos @southernground_parker @g2outdoors @putt4doe @bigasports @bowhunter15

Tough choice. In a perfect world and lots of money I’d have both a mirrorless dslr and a prosumer camcorder. That would cover everything! If I could only choose one....it would probably be the dslr. Main reason being it does both pics and video, it’s smaller/lighter, lots more options for getting the look you want with different lenses. I’ve filmed with a dslr only for the past two seasons and I actually enjoy the extra challenge as sick as that sounds


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[IkemanTX]

Tough choice. In a perfect world and lots of money I’d have both a mirrorless dslr and a prosumer camcorder. That would cover everything! If I could only choose one....it would probably be the dslr. Main reason being it does both pics and video, it’s smaller/lighter, lots more options for getting the look you want with different lenses. I’ve filmed with a dslr only for the past two seasons and I actually enjoy the extra challenge as sick as that sounds


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What DSLR do you use? I am thinking of saving up for the next 10-12 months (if I’m lucky, and my wife doesn’t kill me for it) for a Sony A7Siii (which is supposed to launch before October...) or the Blackmagic pocket 4K.
Knowing I won’t have the gear to film hunts this year, I am not even going to try to film from the tree. I can cover vlog style scouting filming with my iPhone, moment lenses, and external mic. It definitely won’t have the polished look I am after..... But, that will at least give me some workflow to learn from over the next scouting/prep season. Also, it was a total of $350 to add the lenses and mic, versus the cost of a whole new camera+mic... so the phone will be part of my workflow for a while. I don’t think I will have that hard of a time learning my editing software (DaVinci Resolve) because there is a ton of info out there on YouTube. I just need enough workflow to experience it all, and become proficient.

 

[g2outdoors]

I'm the opposite. Camcorder is much easier. Dslr is higher quality, but more difficult to use in a tree.

I'd pick a camcorder.

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[IkemanTX]

I'm the opposite. Camcorder is much easier. Dslr is higher quality, but more difficult to use in a tree.

I'd pick a camcorder.

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This is kind of why the blackmagic pocket 4K is so enticing....
It is basically a cinematography quality camcorder with DSLR lens comparability... want to focus on a spot....? Touch the screen on that spot. Also, being able to record directly to an SSD drive, instead of an SD, would make transferring/editing SO AMAZING.

 

[flinginairos]

What DSLR do you use? I am thinking of saving up for the next 10-12 months (if I’m lucky, and my wife doesn’t kill me for it) for a Sony A7Siii (which is supposed to launch before October...) or the Blackmagic pocket 4K.
Knowing I won’t have the gear to film hunts this year, I am not even going to try to film from the tree. I can cover vlog style scouting filming with my iPhone, moment lenses, and external mic. It definitely won’t have the polished look I am after..... But, that will at least give me some workflow to learn from over the next scouting/prep season. Also, it was a total of $350 to add the lenses and mic, versus the cost of a whole new camera+mic... so the phone will be part of my workflow for a while. I don’t think I will have that hard of a time learning my editing software (DaVinci Resolve) because there is a ton of info out there on YouTube. I just need enough workflow to experience it all, and become proficient.

I use the Panasonic LUMIX g85. It has touch screen focus and is really pretty easy to run. I use a zoom lever on my lens and that’s helps me quickly zoom in/out with the same hand that controls everything else on the camera.


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