What are your methods for the TRC? I was trying to figure it out before I saw this. The core is the same as the yellow core in the oplux. I know of one method but that requires whipping twine.
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Sterling Oplux Sewn Eye
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What are your methods for the TRC? I was trying to figure it out before I saw this. The core is the same as the yellow core in the oplux. I know of one method but that requires whipping twine.
Yeah I trashed a short length this weekend trying to figure something out... currently trying something similar to the samson ice tail eye 2 eye without the brummel splice and the other I'm trying is similar to the Marlow Vega splice. Still working through both of them, not sure either will work but I'm hopeful.
Awesome man. If I figured something different out I’ll let you know
Thanks for posting this guys. I spliced my new Oplux this afternoon. Not the easiest stuff to splice but not bad enough I that wouldn't do it again. I used the Tachyon instructions posted herein. They're backwards from how I sliced my Tachyon previously (feed core then cover versus cover then core) but the end result is the same. I think this way is little easier. The only mistake I made was I didn't get the crossover tight enough before I started the bury so I had a little bunch up milking the final bury. However, a little sweat and rope manipulation and it turned out okay.
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@boyne bowhunter, do you feel the need to whip/stitch the splice?
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Unbelievably, I was able to splice a piece of Oplux. The hardest part was pulling the core from the sheath.
Sorry for the hiatus, with work, school, start of turkey season and all this covid-19 stuff I had to put splicing on the back burner for a bit. I have found a way to splice 6mm TRC, not sure I'm entirely happy with it because I had to remove the core from the eyes and I'm not sure if this rope is core dependent or sheathing dependent.
Anyway I used a section from previous failed attempts and spliced a section eye to eye about 14" and it does seem to be holding up well with the pull testing I've done at my workbench... I have yet to hang from it. I loosely followed the directions for braided safety blue and hivee eye splice as described in sailrights splicing guide. The fid measurements is where I deviated in order to splice the short scrap section I had available. I'm going to continue playing with the TRC to find something I'm fully confident in as well as continue testing the piece I do have spliced.
Anyway I used a section from previous failed attempts and spliced a section eye to eye about 14" and it does seem to be holding up well with the pull testing I've done at my workbench... I have yet to hang from it. I loosely followed the directions for braided safety blue and hivee eye splice as described in sailrights splicing guide. The fid measurements is where I deviated in order to splice the short scrap section I had available. I'm going to continue playing with the TRC to find something I'm fully confident in as well as continue testing the piece I do have spliced.
Not yet been super busy with work with all this covid stuff, on top of school and turkey huntingnon what little time I do have left. I'm also still waiting for Amazon to deliver another wire splice to finish up another trc splice to send all 3 off for testing at the same time. I'll keep you guys in the loop as things progress.
I ordered another piece of Oplux from DanO. When it comes, I will splice it and send it off. The only place I know of to have this done is treestuff. They want a 5" eye with a 10'-12' tail. Is there a place that will test a tight eye?
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Well since I was off work today and it was raining cats and dogs so I didn't turkey hunt, I finally had some time to splice again today. After a failed attempt with a stronger wire fid and a lot of cuss words, I was finally able to get the 3rd TRC splice finished. The method I used for this splice is called the Fly splice better known as the new england heavy duty kernmantle. It honestly is more trouble to splice than its worth, looks like crap but resembles a sewn eye when complete. I found the crossovers to be way too stiff to be useful in an eye to eye.
Another method I tried was the Marlow braid splice, this was also a huge pita to splice as the cover on TRC is really tight and adding the tape on the cut portion of the core made things super difficult. This method also left the crossover super stiff and didn't like to wrap around the 8mm oplux. This method may work a bit better if you like the longer eye to eyes however if you're looking for something less than 28 inches like me... I dont think you'll find this method useful either.
The last method that worked and is pictured on post #88 was the braided safety blue and hivee splice. Which is very similar to samsons 16 strand class 1 eye splice as far as the crossover and flat eye piece go. This method was the "easiest" to splice but was still a major pita and leaves the crossover a bit farther down from the eye and still leaves a section that is fairly stiff and doesn't like to wrap around the oplux. While this method does work and seems to be holding up in my at home testing, I'm not completely satisfied with it enough to use it as my go too friction hitch at hunting height.
For now I will be sticking with poachers knots on my TRC for my eye to eyes. As for the oplux splice, I have been completely satisfied with it and have found someone that will test tight eyes so I'll be getting that shipped out in the next week or so, after I splice the other end as required for their testing.
Another method I tried was the Marlow braid splice, this was also a huge pita to splice as the cover on TRC is really tight and adding the tape on the cut portion of the core made things super difficult. This method also left the crossover super stiff and didn't like to wrap around the 8mm oplux. This method may work a bit better if you like the longer eye to eyes however if you're looking for something less than 28 inches like me... I dont think you'll find this method useful either.
The last method that worked and is pictured on post #88 was the braided safety blue and hivee splice. Which is very similar to samsons 16 strand class 1 eye splice as far as the crossover and flat eye piece go. This method was the "easiest" to splice but was still a major pita and leaves the crossover a bit farther down from the eye and still leaves a section that is fairly stiff and doesn't like to wrap around the oplux. While this method does work and seems to be holding up in my at home testing, I'm not completely satisfied with it enough to use it as my go too friction hitch at hunting height.
For now I will be sticking with poachers knots on my TRC for my eye to eyes. As for the oplux splice, I have been completely satisfied with it and have found someone that will test tight eyes so I'll be getting that shipped out in the next week or so, after I splice the other end as required for their testing.
Who did you find to test tight eyes? I have a 5" splice ready to send to treestuff, but have been unable to get an answer from them as to wether they are currently testing. I would send my 5" and a tight eye to your contact--the greater number of these splices we get tested, the more we can believe the results.
Knot and rope supply offers testing for $15 add an extra $5 if you want the rope shipped back. They'll test ropes with anything bigger than a 1"ID eye and prefer a 6-8' section with an eye and eye splice. Found them on an arborist forum with a lot of guys highly recommending them.
I hate to resurrect old threads, but for safety and posterity I am making one last post here. Knot & Rope Supply tested my Oplux splices using the above method and one failed at 13.5 kn. More info is here: https://saddlehunter.com/community/index.php?threads/splicing-oplux.27526/
As stated earlier in this thread, Sterling (the manufacturer) says Oplux is not spliceable.
updating an old thread. I got the call from Knot & Rope today and the tachyon splice failed at the crossover at just under 3000lbs thats only roughly 54% of opluxs breaking strength so Im awaiting to hear how @CZMark class II splice does and I'll get another sample out
I just got home from work. Knot & Rope did indeed do some splice testing today, and my results were fair.
The Class II Double Braid splice broke at 4,191 pounds, the Tachyon splice with the double-length bury broke at 4,155. That's just over 18.5 kn. If a knot tied in Oplux retains 80% strength, that would be 4,320 pounds.
All that time, work, and money to find out a knot is a better option (and far simpler). Very disappointing.
The Class II Double Braid splice broke at 4,191 pounds, the Tachyon splice with the double-length bury broke at 4,155. That's just over 18.5 kn. If a knot tied in Oplux retains 80% strength, that would be 4,320 pounds.
All that time, work, and money to find out a knot is a better option (and far simpler). Very disappointing.
