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Tethrd One Climbing Sticks

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Interesting. Warranty is usually one of the last things I worry about when purchasing, which I should probably elevate higher on my priority list when making a purchasing decision.

That being said what would you feel would be a reasonable warranty period for the One Sticks? Or any stick for that matter?

For the prices of these premium sticks I think they should be atleast 5 years. Lifetime would sure be nice...

But I don’t see lifetime warranty on the beast gear site. But I do recall Dan saying that... they did replace my bent standoffs after 2 years.
 
I don’t reckon I’ll be hitting my sticks(not Tethrd) with a 2lb hammer that’s just stupid.
Catalyst just lost respect.


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Yeah they lost my respect a while back, I wish I never would’ve bought their sticks... When they were live streaming On the catalyst carbon pro sticks, the one guy said hey be careful with your language, kids may be watching and other one guy replied “F... kids” then just laughed.
 
Usually math keeps me personally from eating through a straw, but calculate darn near everything twice (once for the risk, and second since I'm from Kentucky).
Math, numbers, and real-life experience is what gives me rhe warm and fuzzies!
 
Obviously to this point I understand the glue fail, but is there any chance that the "roll pins will fail" camp could be wrong, and maybe they wont? I'm just looking for a total failure of stick before panicking and reselling them. Hoping I am not the first one it happens to, no offense...
I don't think you will see a failure in the short term. It will be over a extended time of use with alittle movement after you warranty is gone. It will be a slow process over many repeated cycles. Once the holes are egged out only option will be to drill out and repeat until nothing is left to redrill. If you are ok with that more power to yeah. Just think for the money the glue should not be failing this early. How ever they test these things is not gonna pick up this failure. Lone wolf sticks pass the tests too. But is common knowledge that the steps will have to replaced eventually from repeated movement deforming the steps.
 
I'm curious about elastic deformation and compression of the spring pin. Are the potential values under normal use so little as to be non factors?

Is plastic deformation basically required for the pin to work loose because the roll pin is exerting an outward force along its axis and would expand to match any potential elastic deformation? There is a lot of friction bearing material for the roll pin to act against if tolerances are good.

Or, is it possible that downforce on the standoff could compress the pin as (if possible to achieve) the holes expand elastically from that same downwards force?

Either way, fortunately the wrap around design means the pin has to travel a ways to free itself.



Even if the stick is in fact superior in durability to the field, it would be better for overall peace of mind if the stick was designed to specifically bear weight the way it seems it's often enough going to. Since that isn't the case, I'm with Kyler in that I'd want to know more about the trials the sticks underwent with just the roll pin.

Also, if any of the pros who hunted on them all last season had glue breakages, and if so, did they continue to use the sticks, and if so, what was observed.

Not saying the sticks are unsafe, but that it's hard to affirm they are safe if we don't know that they were really put to the test in the lab and in the field under a glueless condition. Only Tethrd can answer that, and surely they'll have some demonstration to address the situation I would think. Or not.
 
Even if the stick is in fact superior in durability to the field, it would be better for overall peace of mind if the stick was designed to specifically bear weight the way it seems it's often enough going to. Since that isn't the case, I'm with Kyler in that I'd want to know more about the trials the sticks underwent with just the roll pin.
That's the big issue, isn't it. The stick looks like it's going to frequently bear your weight in a manner that it was initially claimed by Tethrd to not be designed to do.

They should have sold the adhesive as a feature for silence, but the rollpin as structural (and designed accordingly). If it'll pass on half a rollpin (i.e.1 side removed) test and publish those test results too. My main concern would be in consistency of fabrication of parts that were not communicated to us as load-bearing. Are the rollpins consistently and carefully set to a correct and safe depth, and is proper quality maintained on the pins (and the holes in the step). Is the step built to sustain loading applied primarily through the pin?
 
If the holes egg out why cant you just put a bolt in its place? This arguement has went to the extremes. I've had my issues with the sticks but dang we are suppose to be diy kinda guys and complaining about a pin is kinda silly if you ask me. If the pins wears out put a bolt in its place. I've already looked and you can still stack them even with a bolt head sticking out.
 
If the holes egg out why cant you just put a bolt in its place? This arguement has went to the extremes. I've had my issues with the sticks but dang we are suppose to be diy kinda guys and complaining about a pin is kinda silly if you ask me. If the pins wears out put a bolt in its place. I've already looked and you can still stack them even with a bolt head sticking out.

They are $120 each.
 
If the holes egg out why cant you just put a bolt in its place? This arguement has went to the extremes. I've had my issues with the sticks but dang we are suppose to be diy kinda guys and complaining about a pin is kinda silly if you ask me. If the pins wears out put a bolt in its place. I've already looked and you can still stack them even with a bolt head sticking out.
yep!!!
 
I'm alittle iffy myself on it but I am going to keep them, watch them and if something looks to change i will modify to the best my brain can think of. I totally understand where your coming from but this arguement has gone on forever. Me myself dont like the beast stick kind of a stick. I really do like the way tethrd made these sticks. There is issues I know but I want to figure them out. They SHOULD be perfect I understand at that price but they aren't.
 
Not sure if this question has been posed, but why has no one challenged Tethrd on this..

If the glue isn't necessary, why is it there? If the roll pin in the primary load bearing feature, we're the sticks tested without glue?
 
Not sure if this question has been posed, but why has no one challenged Tethrd on this..

If the glue isn't necessary, why is it there? If the roll pin in the primary load bearing feature, we're the sticks tested without glue?

I don't think we'll get any answers in this thread. They don't owe anyone anything. But i would sure like to know more stuff...
 
I don't think we'll get any answers in this thread. They don't owe anyone anything. But i would sure like to know more stuff...

Yes, exactly.

But we do know some testing without glue was done. What that entailed, well we don't know all that much about it.
 
Not sure if this question has been posed, but why has no one challenged Tethrd on this..

Seems to be crickets on the Facebook...good or bad. Make of that what you will, but this is the only place I’ve seen any discussion about the sticks and their issues.


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Not sure if this question has been posed, but why has no one challenged Tethrd on this..

If the glue isn't necessary, why is it there? If the roll pin in the primary load bearing feature, we're the sticks tested without glue?
For the record, Tethrd and their representatives can't reply in this thread per forum rules. They can discuss the sticks in the vendor section if they choose to do so.
 
Usually math keeps me personally from eating through a straw, but calculate darn near everything twice (once for the risk, and second since I'm from Kentucky).

I spit my coke out laughing when I read
“Usually Meth” keeps me personally from eating through a straw, but calculate darn near everything twice (once for the risk and second since I’m from Kentucky).

Lol. I may need a nap. It’s been a long week!!


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