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I agree bud. I’m just poking. Those Tethrd guys have been known to make it right.
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Tethrd Predator Platform Manufacturing Concerns
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Agreed on that. Definitely not their mission to displease.
Gamover06
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Like been state NO factory or company has a perfect record after being up and running. This stuff is where great companies break apart from others, customer service. I have yet to here a bad review about there customers service so we all know he will be taken care of. Thanks for the reminder about safety.
A week or so ago I pulled an arrow and got a carbon splinter in my hand. Did an arrow bend and it cracked all the way down the shaft. This is the time of the year where we are all getting ready and some times we get dazed. If it weren't for that splinter I probably would have shot the arrow and gotten a couple more splinters. SAFTY
A week or so ago I pulled an arrow and got a carbon splinter in my hand. Did an arrow bend and it cracked all the way down the shaft. This is the time of the year where we are all getting ready and some times we get dazed. If it weren't for that splinter I probably would have shot the arrow and gotten a couple more splinters. SAFTY
Patriot
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I feel compelled to say 3 things:
1. I respect the heck out of Tethrd and their people
2. I own a predator and it is the shiznit
3. The guy who posted this did nothing wrong. I’m going to go home and inspect all my gear. I know mfg and there is no such thing as a perfect mfg line.
There is nothing wrong with a Public reminder and an example as to why it is the hunters responsibility to inspect their gear.
1. I respect the heck out of Tethrd and their people
2. I own a predator and it is the shiznit
3. The guy who posted this did nothing wrong. I’m going to go home and inspect all my gear. I know mfg and there is no such thing as a perfect mfg line.
There is nothing wrong with a Public reminder and an example as to why it is the hunters responsibility to inspect their gear.
ImThere
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As far as saddles go I would trust a saddle made by Areohunter or Tethrd before I trust a DIY. You are talking about a cast platform not a saddle. Tethrd will make it right . It scares me to read some of the things some guys are making and using. I been saddle hunting along time and I have always trusted the saddle manufacturers. But I always check my saddles, steps ,sticks and platforms before ever use. I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable season.
LarryB52
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That's like you trust me more than yourself. It wasn't a speculation as to the quality of either company. They're both great companies. And sure they'll make it right but it never should've made it out the door. It's not robots filling orders. Visual checks, for quality, should be the very last step before it's packaged. I've been in the manufacturing industry a long time and that would've costed someone their job. It was just a thought brother. Hope you have a safe and successful season as well.
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Call and hang up on them. Always makes me feel better.
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Why would there need to be a recall when we stopped selling the gen 1’s and replaced it with the gen2 and replaced any platform that had a problem? Seems like a decent way to handle it myself
I still have a gen 1 and plan to use it this fall. I love that thing lolSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Why would there need to be a recall when we stopped selling the gen 1’s and replaced it with the gen2 and replaced any platform that had a problem? Seems like a decent way to handle it myselfI still have a gen 1 and plan to use it this fall. I love that thing lol
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I"m not saying replacement of the broken ones wasnt a decent way to handle the broken platforms, it was- and from what I know they were replaced quickly and painlessly. BUT, without an announcement of sorts, notice, or recall consumers are unaware that there are even different "gens". The gen 2 was created because Gen 1's were failing (SOME, not all). There are Gen 1's on the used market. They were sold with a 300# weight limit.
According to Ernie during testing, one fell shy of the 300# rating:
(https://saddlehunter.com/community/...rsens-bowhunting-equipment-issue.12502/page-4 Post#79)
The design changed because some broke-1 out of 3 tested fell below the advertised weight rating. Approximately 33% of the tested platforms failed. How many gens 1's were sold? how many were replaced--1/3? Just like recalled ameristeps--not every single one dated with an "08" broke(and will), but all manufactured during that date, are recalled. Consumers have the right to know the risks associated with the Gen 1, the differences between the two platforms, and how to tell them apart so they can be educated and informed when they come across used gear. Heck, I bet the majority of tethrd customers dont even know there was a gen 1 or gen 2. It's highly unethical to knowingly sell used recalled gear, I believe its probably even illegal-- I would think the manufacturer would want to do everything they can to mitigate the potential safety risk associated with the product.
I understand recalls damage brand image, are extremely expensive, a nightmare logistically, and I'm sure a giant headache. But Manufacturers have a responsibility to their customers to communicate safety issues/concerns when their products potentially fall short. Again, why a design change to the Gen 2 and the discontinuation of the Gen 1 if there were not concerns about it breaking? I"m sure the tooling for manufacturing change wasn't cheap and Tethrd chose to invest in the redesign and manufacturing changes. Just doesn't make sense to not invest in the communication with the customers and a recall if there was a big enough concern to change the design. The only communication about broken platforms was on this site, not an official Tethrd website or marketing platform. In fact, there is a whole page on Tethrd website called "the Evolution of a Platform" (https://tethrdnation.com/evolution-of-a-platform/ ) that doesn't mention a single thing about a gen 1 or gen 2. Seems like a pretty important part of the evolution....
I"m not a lawyer, so I dont know if "legally" there should have been a recall. Just seems like it makes sense based upon the information at hand and the fact that there is a potential safety concern.
Well damn if a little research won’t do you good!
Well thought-out response. Anyone in retail or manufacturing (or security/first response) knows that you have to be able to put 100% trust in your equipment and thus, the people who make and sell it, and ultimately inspect it before it’s supposed to be used and abused.
Was that the gen 1 or 2 ?
Gen 2 is the only one shipping from Tethrd now. Gen 1 is obsolete.
I have a gen one . I was one of the first to get them . My gen 1 is ok . I was wondering if the pic was gen
2. No one said what batch it came from and witch one failed. I know they don't make the gen 1 because a few broke. My platform is not obsolete it still works. Lol
Lol I just meant that as it’s a new platform straight from Tethrd, it can only be a G2. No harm no foul.
dlist777
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I didnt know there was a gen 1. Thanks for the info. It does seem a bit unethical to not do some more communicating of this....esp with the amount of used gear sold on this site.
I still have my Gen 1 as well. I used it for the complete season last year with no issues (75+ sits). I bought a second Gen 2 this spring for everyday use and kept the Gen 1 as a backup. I admit I treat the Gen 1 a little more gently . . . I only hand set it (no toe hook) but it works just fine.
While that's not a structural member, I definitely don't like the looks of it. Please contact Tethrd directly and they will get it replaced.
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I hate even replying to this thread, since I know somebody is just going to skew my words but here's the deal. The 2x spec is an astm standard. It's not the law.
I know for a fact that there are some other manufacturers out there that you guys all trust who haven't even gone through any third party testing. Based on the media I've seen, provided by both the suppliers and the customers, I don't know if they would pass if they did.
We did the testing at that time for our own knowledge, not because we were looking for a TMA certification. We felt comfortable that a 1.95 factor of safety was safe compared to a 2.0. If you paid attention, none of the "failures" happened because of a person standing on the platform. The failure of the rear corner was occurring during installation. It's annoying no doubt, but not a safety concern.
A lot of people like the gen 1 platform. I get requests for it all the time. And if you are careful during installation, it doesn't break. I also offer lifetime replacement on any platform that does break.
We didn't upgrade to a gen 2 because we thought it was unsafe or we were worried about the load rating. You are mistaken on that point.
We upgraded because we wanted it to be bullet proof. Good enough wasn't good enough for me. I wanted you to be able to toe hook it without concern even though the users manual says not to. Since I was paying to upgrade the rear portion of the mold, it made sense to upgrade the front portion as well. That is why the entire thing is stronger.
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