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Thinking about quartering deer vs dragging out. Thoughts??

boyne bowhunter said:
Unfortunately packing it out is not an option in Michigan, unless you want to pack out all the pieces too which kind of eliminates the advantage.

Deer Carcass Disposal
Dumping of deer carcasses or other wild animals is unlawful, can spread disease,
and may result in a ticket. Hunters who process their deer should properly
dispose of all parts. The hide, brain, spinal cord, eyes, spleen, tonsils, bones, and
head should be disposed of in an approved landfill.
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In WV disposal doesn’t go hand in hand with field quartering. Meaning you can’t just dump parts over the road somewhere. Maybe that’s what that law means? Be worth checking into. I would think leaving the skeletal parts where the animal came from would be better than moving it around to different areas. That’s just my thoughts on it lol


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CWD apparently just hit northern Alabama, so it'll be interesting to see how regs change. I've never really understood the rationale behind driving a (presumably infectious) carcass to a remote area vs letting momma nature do her thing. Scavengers, fresh air, and sunshine do a pretty good job of breaking that thing down. And I've noticed that carcases in communal "gut piles" dissapear much slower and get a lot funkier than those left singly in the woods.

I understand the idea of a carcass spreading disease, but isn't CWD supposed to also be spread by feces, urine, and saliva? Seems to me that baiting would be a higher-priority concern, since it concentrates the herd.
 
Once you go pack you never go back. I'll still drag if downhill and less than a half mile, especially if I have help. But if I hunted a state where it's illegal, if I was 2 miles deep I'd say screw that. I'd have my tag with me and ducks in a row and say catch me if you can to your stupid regulation.

I don't mess with deboning in the field, I just use gutless method and take out quarters, loins, neck meat, heart and ribs if they are salvageable. A big doe ends up being about 50-60 pounds, a decent sized buck at least 75 plus the head, cape whatever. I've always managed in one trip but I don't do shoulder mounts, I imagine a cape might necessitate a second trip.
 
flinginairos said:
In WV disposal doesn’t go hand in hand with field quartering. Meaning you can’t just dump parts over the road somewhere. Maybe that’s what that law means? Be worth checking into. I would think leaving the skeletal parts where the animal came from would be better than moving it around to different areas. That’s just my thoughts on it lol


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No, they're concerned about transmission of diseases, right now particularly CWD and the fact that the prions could be spread from predator feces. That's why they want the carcass disposed of in an approved landfill.
 
boyne bowhunter said:
No, they're concerned about transmission of diseases, right now particularly CWD and the fact that the prions could be spread from predator feces. That's why they want the carcass disposed of in an approved landfill.
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Oh ok. I still don't agree with that logic but that's a topic for another day lol. Sucks you can't pack them out there.
 
boyne bowhunter said:
No, they're concerned about transmission of diseases, right now particularly CWD and the fact that the prions could be spread from predator feces. That's why they want the carcass disposed of in an approved landfill.
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So on one hand, CRAP. I was about to dig into how to do that, buy a new backpack, etc...
On the other hand, looks like I just saved the cost of a new backpack for quarter-packing deer out.
 
Nutterbuster said:
CWD apparently just hit northern Alabama, so it'll be interesting to see how regs change. I've never really understood the rationale behind driving a (presumably infectious) carcass to a remote area vs letting momma nature do her thing. Scavengers, fresh air, and sunshine do a pretty good job of breaking that thing down. And I've noticed that carcases in communal "gut piles" dissapear much slower and get a lot funkier than those left singly in the woods.

I understand the idea of a carcass spreading disease, but isn't CWD supposed to also be spread by feces, urine, and saliva? Seems to me that baiting would be a higher-priority concern, since it concentrates the herd.
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In theory packing out the head/spine removes a lot of infectious material that would otherwise be hanging around and being spread - but it would be spread anyway if the deer died naturally.

I'm all for abolishing baiting, feeding, etc. Artificial concentration and the resulting increase in unnecessary disease transmission possibilities just ism't cool.
 
@mattsteg, my thoughts exactly. Not trying to derail the thread, just don't really believe that it makes that much difference. Hate to read about guys saying they have to drag deer miles outta the woods when there's a better way.
 
boyne bowhunter said:
Unfortunately packing it out is not an option in Michigan, unless you want to pack out all the pieces too which kind of eliminates the advantage.

Deer Carcass Disposal
Dumping of deer carcasses or other wild animals is unlawful, can spread disease,
and may result in a ticket. Hunters who process their deer should properly
dispose of all parts. The hide, brain, spinal cord, eyes, spleen, tonsils, bones, and
head should be disposed of in an approved landfill.
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We had this discussion last fall, I'll have to go find the thread. But the regs you quoted do not pertain to deboning or quartering in the field. That is strictly for disposal after the fact if you move the deer. We do however have other requirements like proof of sex I think. Also, depending on which CO you talk to, you'll get different answers to this question.
 
boyne bowhunter said:
Unfortunately packing it out is not an option in Michigan, unless you want to pack out all the pieces too which kind of eliminates the advantage.

Deer Carcass Disposal
Dumping of deer carcasses or other wild animals is unlawful, can spread disease,
and may result in a ticket. Hunters who process their deer should properly
dispose of all parts. The hide, brain, spinal cord, eyes, spleen, tonsils, bones, and
head should be disposed of in an approved landfill.
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I am also from Michigan, and I found this link from the DNR saying it is acceptable to bury the carcass at the kill site. https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/MIDNR/bulletins/20e5af5#link_1537372515747
  • Dispose of leftover carcass parts through your garbage service, an appropriate landfill, incineration or deep burial at the harvest location.
 
DanO said:
We had this discussion last fall, I'll have to go find the thread. But the regs you quoted do not pertain to deboning or quartering in the field. That is strictly for disposal after the fact if you move the deer. We do however have other requirements like proof of sex I think. Also, depending on which CO you talk to, you'll get different answers to this question.
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I would really appreciate it if you could link to this thread. There seems to be a lot of debate on this subject for Michigan and would love answers.
 
personally, it is all about the distance from truck and location i'm hunting. If i'm hunting one of my honey holes. I would never quarter a deer on spot. I always cart them out. (this is assuming "drag" means without a deer dolly). If I walk back to a spot that's over a mile one way through mud, etc. I don't want to cart anything through that, so I typically will quarter than one up.

Everyone has their own convictions, but I try to waste absolutely as little meat as I can so I much prefer skinning them in my back yard. I haven't seen anyone carry out all that I cut out in my back yard so that's why I choose carting them out over quartering. Most videos i watch leave the neck that's one of my favorite cuts, bone in.

Here in LA you have to bring out the sex organs and head if I remember correctly. Add all that up and you should have carted the deer out.

I'M ALSO HUNTING FLAT LAND. I couldn't imagine carting one out in the mountains.. sheesh..
 
DanO said:
Not definitive:
https://saddlehunter.com/community/...ave-a-game-cart-to-recommend.7074/post-106342

But what you posted above sounds legit - "or deep burial at the harvest location". Why would they include that if it wasn't an option? And what is considered deep?
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Unfortunately the wording (like a lot of regulations) leaves a lot to the interpretation of the LEO. I would hope common sense would rule but you never know until the ticket is written (or not). Fortunately, northern lower Michigan is criss-crossed with roads, two tracks and logging trails so I rarely have to drag much over a 1/4 mile to get to the nearest passable cart trail.
 
Nutterbuster said:
CWD apparently just hit northern Alabama, so it'll be interesting to see how regs change. I've never really understood the rationale behind driving a (presumably infectious) carcass to a remote area vs letting momma nature do her thing. Scavengers, fresh air, and sunshine do a pretty good job of breaking that thing down. And I've noticed that carcases in communal "gut piles" dissapear much slower and get a lot funkier than those left singly in the woods.

I understand the idea of a carcass spreading disease, but isn't CWD supposed to also be spread by feces, urine, and saliva? Seems to me that baiting would be a higher-priority concern, since it concentrates the herd.
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I recently watched a video which goes against the orthodoxy of prions being the cause of CWD.

https://www.deeranddeerhunting.com...ersial-research-bacteria-not-prions-cause-cwd

Interesting, but I have no deer biology knowledge.
 
Gents, I'd like to comment on the politics of this as well, but our host @redsquirrel has requested us to leave this to other sites. Please let's stay focused on the idea of quartering vs dragging.
 
sureshotscott said:
Gents, I'd like to comment on the politics of this as well, but our host @redsquirrel has requested us to leave this to other sites. Please let's stay focused on the idea of quartering vs dragging.
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What politics are you referring to? I'm not trying to be argumentative with this question, Red has the right to restrict whatever conversations he wants on his site and he has tasked you guys in helping him with that. I'm just trying to understand the limits. It seems that whether or not it's legal in your State and the potential to spread disease are both relevant to the decision on whether to pack out or not. Or did I miss a post that was deleted or something?
 
GCTerpfan said:
What politics are you referring to? I'm not trying to be argumentative with this question, Red has the right to restrict whatever conversations he wants on his site and he has tasked you guys in helping him with that. I'm just trying to understand the limits. It seems that whether or not it's legal in your State and the potential to spread disease are both relevant to the decision on whether to pack out or not. Or did I miss a post that was deleted or something?
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I totally want to quarter out, but in NJ, it is a no go. I accept that. Just curious about PA and also the new info. on CWD. Not trying to stir the pot at all.
 
sojourner said:
I totally want to quarter out, but in NJ, it is a no go. I accept that. Just curious about PA and also the new info. on CWD. Not trying to stir the pot at all.
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I'm not sure you did. There was a couple threads a few weeks ago about the CWD info and it was discussed freely. There some good info in them. Do a search for CWD and you should be able to find them.

I agree about wanting to pack them out. I recently found out it's legal in MD. I've been looking into packs since season ended. I'll be packing them out next year.
 
sureshotscott said:
Gents, I'd like to comment on the politics of this as well, but our host @redsquirrel has requested us to leave this to other sites. Please let's stay focused on the idea of quartering vs dragging.
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Sorry if I inadvertently dragged this thread off topic Scott. It wasn't my intention to be argumentative or poke a hornets nest. Back to the discussion at hand.:)
 
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