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This has made one sticking 25% faster and easier for me. Has anyone else tried it?

2Sloe said:
Ok, I definitely see that you get a little extra distance by being able to set your stick higher while standing vs sitting on successive moves. If it were a contest to see how high you can get with the least amount of moves, you would probably win every time. However, it’s not just about distance per move, it’s about a balance between distance, time and ease of use. A person could probably make two more traditional moves and beat you to the hunting height every time. But it was good thinking even if it didn’t pan out in my opinion. That’s ok, the greatest inventors didn’t score on the first try. They kept trying and that’s why they are considered the greatest. In the end, as long as you like it, that’s all that matters....and you took the time to share, which is the best part. Thanks! Edit: On the other hand, maybe you just need to perfect it a little more to reduce the fiddle factor and speed things up a bit.
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You are welcome. Yes, I agree, if it works for you, it works for you. In the past I haven't enjoyed one sticking because of number of transitions. I just carried in multiple sticks. For me this is less about “speed” for me and more about ease and enjoyment. However, for me this is much faster as well. The transitions are the only real “negative” to one sticking for me and this way I only have to do 2. I agree that I can improve the "fiddle factor" a lot. Watching me move my tether is cringe worthy. But, I guess that means I can only get better. I'm going to try putting a castration band on the foot loop and then unclipping it from the prusik and onto my linesman loop and I think that will help out. I appreciate the feedback!
 
Newhunter1 said:
That's what I was thinking. Instead of placing the aider on the stick...why not place the aider on that sliding hitch and climb up it. That way it's the best of both worlds. @Steve_Eh would that work?
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I'll try it out. The higher close I get to the anchor point of the tether the less space there is to put my foot in the aider, but it might work. Off a stick the aider is hanging out 3-4 inches. I'll let you know
 
One thing I hate about aiders is trying to find flopping loops with my foot and at the same time plant my toe on the tree with each foot. Your video shows you trying to cross over your left foot to fit in the aider and that looks awkward. I guess a little more refinement will solve that. The difference between standing and sitting looks to be about 1 foot so I don't see how it saves much. Good idea if you want to climb this way. Simpler setup would be best for me.
 
bj139 said:
One thing I hate about aiders is trying to find flopping loops with my foot and at the same time plant my toe on the tree with each foot. Your video shows you trying to cross over your left foot to fit in the aider and that looks awkward. I guess a little more refinement will solve that. The difference between standing and sitting looks to be about 1 foot so I don't see how it saves much. Good idea if you want to climb this way. Simpler setup would be best for me.
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Yes, I hear you for sure. That was one of the things I noticed while watching myself as well. I'm going to try putting a castration band on the foot loop and then unclipping it from the prusik and onto my linesman loop and I think that will help out. It adds about 20" on average for me, so I'm about 40" higher than "normal". So it saves me 1 transition. Definitely not for everyone, but I'm having fun with it. I appreciate the feedback!
 
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So after I thought about this I realized that you are gaining height per move (to an extent).

One-sticking climbing distance efficiency is based on max tie off height. With that said there are actually 2x max tie off distances: 1) max tie off when standing 2) same for sitting.

If you can get max tie off standing for every move, then you will get more height. However, you have to either have enough aider or a long enough stick to span distance between max tie off height and how high you can step.

I kinda want to try it.
 
smcchevy said:
So after I thought about this I realized that you are gaining height per move (to an extent).

One-sticking climbing distance efficiency is based on max tie off height. With that said there are actually 2x max tie off distances: 1) max tie off when standing 2) same for sitting.

If you can get max tie off standing for every move, then you will get more height. However, you have to either have enough aider or a long enough stick to span distance between max tie off height and how high you can step.

I kinda want to try it.
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Well said! You explained it much better than I did. Yes, 7-14-21 ft rather than 7-12-17-22 ft. The foot loop allows me to reach near max standing height each time and still be able to reach my regular aider.
 
smcchevy said:
So after I thought about this I realized that you are gaining height per move (to an extent).

One-sticking climbing distance efficiency is based on max tie off height. With that said there are actually 2x max tie off distances: 1) max tie off when standing 2) same for sitting.

If you can get max tie off standing for every move, then you will get more height. However, you have to either have enough aider or a long enough stick to span distance between max tie off height and how high you can step.

I kinda want to try it.
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That's why i run a 4 step diy amsteel aider. I get on my top step and reach as high as i can to set my tether. then reach down and get the wire tie loop and pull my stick up and the amsteel end of the rope i put in a loop on the end of my wire tie so i can reach the rope to pull it out of the cam cleat. you just have to remember to stop on your way up and move the tether up and put the rope in the twist of the wire tie. Then with the four step aider its not so hard to climb up to the stick.
 
Steve_Eh said:
Here is version 2.0:
I still have room for improvement, but it's getting smoother. :sunglasses:
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I like it.

If you watch the 2TC guys, they are all running handles on their tethers. Lots of different ways to make them or things to use, but that might add one more efficiency to your setup.

Thanks for sharing.
 
smcchevy said:
So after I thought about this I realized that you are gaining height per move (to an extent).

One-sticking climbing distance efficiency is based on max tie off height. With that said there are actually 2x max tie off distances: 1) max tie off when standing 2) same for sitting.

If you can get max tie off standing for every move, then you will get more height. However, you have to either have enough aider or a long enough stick to span distance between max tie off height and how high you can step.

I kinda want to try it.
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That is exactly what bothers me about 1 stick method....that is why I carry the 2 anchor points to attach aider... that way I can set the next anchor as high as possible and not lose that sit/stand distance...long 4 step aider that is made of non flimsy/flapping material with foot loops that stay open no matter if the aider is loaded or unloaded.
 
Plebe said:
I like it.

If you watch the 2TC guys, they are all running handles on their tethers. Lots of different ways to make them or things to use, but that might add one more efficiency to your setup.

Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks! I'll try it out
 
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