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Veterans sound off

I'm shifting the awkwardness off onto others this year.

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We got a Guard or Reserve Air Refueling unit nearby in Niagara Falls, NY. That midair refueling stuff is fascinating. Such precision.
 
We got a Guard or Reserve Air Refueling unit nearby in Niagara Falls, NY. That midair refueling stuff is fascinating. Such precision.

That precision is because they’re only sober when flying. It’s such a narrow window that they can focus before bingeing again.

Edit: My first dorm had boomers, ATC and firefighters. Every night (or morning) was our Friday night and weekend.

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I definitely feel awkward in those conversations, too. Especially since my Guard unit spent more time sweeping floors than training for our job…and I never deployed. My wife has to elbow me any time we’re in a meeting and someone asks if there are any veterans in the room.

But I think it’s good to be able to receive thanks from someone. That conversation may be as much about them sharing gratefulness as it is about you receiving it.

My BNL is a Green Beret…He gets very uncomfortable when people thank him for his service, especially now. His 1st tour was I Iraq when it was HOT. He did 2 tours in afghanistan, after that, and spent some time in North Africa in between. After we pulled out of Afghanistan is when he got not uncomfortable…he has never said anything about it but I can tell.

We were in a convenience store together over Veterans Day, and a guy walked by with a Vietnam Vet hat on. My BNL thanked him for his service, bought his coffee, and walked away. He never said anything about being in the Army himself.

He won’t ask for discounts or freebies. If he’s in uniform he asks them to not do it. He didn’t do it for the discounts, he did it because it was his duty.


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My BNL is a Green Beret…He gets very uncomfortable when people thank him for his service, especially now. His 1st tour was I Iraq when it was HOT. He did 2 tours in afghanistan, after that, and spent some time in North Africa in between. After we pulled out of Afghanistan is when he got not uncomfortable…he has never said anything about it but I can tell.

We were in a convenience store together over Veterans Day, and a guy walked by with a Vietnam Vet hat on. My BNL thanked him for his service, bought his coffee, and walked away. He never said anything about being in the Army himself.

He won’t ask for discounts or freebies. If he’s in uniform he asks them to not do it. He didn’t do it for the discounts, he did it because it was his duty.


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Each branches SF does different things. In the AF, it's about getting in under fire to rescue whomever is down. In the Navy, it's about clandestine ass kicking. For my mindset and specialties, I've always trended towards PJ's but fully admire what the GB's do.

They're the true guerrilla fighter. They get in behind the lines and become part of the resistance. They can train the resistance, in the native language and often shed blood with their new found brothers. Aside from John Wayne movies, few talk about the GB's because they truly live in the shadows and it takes a special person to do that knowing that no one will ever sing their praises.
 
Retired Air Force Chief Master Sergeant (E9) here. Served just over 22 years. Fighter Crew Chief.


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Who all here is a veteran?

I did 4 years from Feb01 to Feb05 in the Air Force as a 3c2x1, worked in Space Command in Colorado.
Nov 1971 to Oct 1975, got out a month early for school. Air Force, egress - election seats, explosives, pneumatics. F4 phantoms, F105s.
 
I’m mostly ashamed of my service.
Was just an E-4 and later E-5 reserve medic, so I did what I was told and was a pretty good medic, though attached to a combat support hospital, not a combat arms group. My combat support hospital ran medical support operations for Camp Cropper, Abu Ghraib, and Camp Bucca; the 3 internment facilities (prisons) run by the US during Operation Iraqi Freedom. I spent probably 95% of my deployment at Bucca, middle of the desert in southern Iraq. An escaped detainee would probably die of exposure during 10 out of 12 months or so. I’m guessing. Some of my time working in the hospital, and some of it being assigned as the medic to a prison compound. Making sure every detainee had access to sick call, including dental and vision. Proper care for the elderly and diabetics and hypertensive and every other malady. This was less than a year after the big photo abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib, so we were watched closely. Everyone was kinda walking on eggshells. Didn’t matter much to me, I wanted to do my work well, and go to sleep when my shift was up, I wanted zero conversations with my command and zero investigations from anyone. Fair enough, did my job and gave a lot of these detainees the best healthcare they’ve ever seen. Sometimes I treated US soldiers, Marines, airmen, and contractors, and I still am proud of my work with those guys, but that’s about it. A couple years after I left there, the whole OIF thing got shut down, and the prison operations were passed over to the new interim government. Something like that anyways. The detainees were mostly let go. Thousands and thousands of them that we neatly put together so they could introduce themselves to their new neighbors. They probably never would’ve met each other otherwise. We almost forced them to meet each other. A bunch of these guys stayed close to each other after that and formed the senior leadership of a new organization called ISIS. I helped make sure those guys were healthy. I wonder if, and how many people would have avoided horrible violence if I’d been bad at my job, or treated every sick call patient like a malingerer.
I smile and nod and say thanks when family or people from work thank me for my service, because I don’t want to get into it. I have little doubt though that there’s have been more love and less beheadings if my whole combat support hospital would’ve just stayed home.
I am proud to know there’s at least 2 soldiers that were alive in 06 that wouldn’t have been alive without my work, and I helped a lot of other good folks through issues far less deadly, but urgent nonetheless. But the other 11 months and 20 something days out of 12 months is all regret and guilt. I would’ve served my country and the world better if I had never gotten out of bed. I had no choice though. I was a specialist and briefly sergeant before my contact was up. Do my job or face UCMJ, and this following the ****show at Abu G, I would almost certainly be locked up for any abuse or neglect.

I’m not sure I’ll even really hit “ post” here. The psych doc at the VA is the only one I’ve talked to about it and he just makes sympathetic noises and throws pills at me. Nice fella though.
 
Awesome. 3/32d Field Artillery (Lance) "Proud Americans " Wiesbaden Germany 88-90 Battery Commander

My first job was Survey Platoon Leader. Always had a soft spot for them.
Wiesbaden Air Base 91 to 93. 12th Evac Hospital and then redesignated to 212 MASH. Total enlistment 89 to 2001. Medic and X ray.

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I’m mostly ashamed of my service.
Was just an E-4 and later E-5 reserve medic, so I did what I was told and was a pretty good medic, though attached to a combat support hospital, not a combat arms group. My combat support hospital ran medical support operations for Camp Cropper, Abu Ghraib, and Camp Bucca; the 3 internment facilities (prisons) run by the US during Operation Iraqi Freedom. I spent probably 95% of my deployment at Bucca, middle of the desert in southern Iraq. An escaped detainee would probably die of exposure during 10 out of 12 months or so. I’m guessing. Some of my time working in the hospital, and some of it being assigned as the medic to a prison compound. Making sure every detainee had access to sick call, including dental and vision. Proper care for the elderly and diabetics and hypertensive and every other malady. This was less than a year after the big photo abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib, so we were watched closely. Everyone was kinda walking on eggshells. Didn’t matter much to me, I wanted to do my work well, and go to sleep when my shift was up, I wanted zero conversations with my command and zero investigations from anyone. Fair enough, did my job and gave a lot of these detainees the best healthcare they’ve ever seen. Sometimes I treated US soldiers, Marines, airmen, and contractors, and I still am proud of my work with those guys, but that’s about it. A couple years after I left there, the whole OIF thing got shut down, and the prison operations were passed over to the new interim government. Something like that anyways. The detainees were mostly let go. Thousands and thousands of them that we neatly put together so they could introduce themselves to their new neighbors. They probably never would’ve met each other otherwise. We almost forced them to meet each other. A bunch of these guys stayed close to each other after that and formed the senior leadership of a new organization called ISIS. I helped make sure those guys were healthy. I wonder if, and how many people would have avoided horrible violence if I’d been bad at my job, or treated every sick call patient like a malingerer.
I smile and nod and say thanks when family or people from work thank me for my service, because I don’t want to get into it. I have little doubt though that there’s have been more love and less beheadings if my whole combat support hospital would’ve just stayed home.
I am proud to know there’s at least 2 soldiers that were alive in 06 that wouldn’t have been alive without my work, and I helped a lot of other good folks through issues far less deadly, but urgent nonetheless. But the other 11 months and 20 something days out of 12 months is all regret and guilt. I would’ve served my country and the world better if I had never gotten out of bed. I had no choice though. I was a specialist and briefly sergeant before my contact was up. Do my job or face UCMJ, and this following the ****show at Abu G, I would almost certainly be locked up for any abuse or neglect.

I’m not sure I’ll even really hit “ post” here. The psych doc at the VA is the only one I’ve talked to about it and he just makes sympathetic noises and throws pills at me. Nice fella though.
Thank you for posting. I feel similar in some ways, I think it's called imposter syndrome. MASH, CSH, and EVAC hospitals for me. We keep on trucking. JJ.

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Thank you for posting. I feel similar in some ways, I think it's called imposter syndrome. MASH, CSH, and EVAC hospitals for me. We keep on trucking. JJ.

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Yall had some of the toughest jobs. Thank you for your service.
 
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