Why don't yall 2TC?

[Andrew920]

I wished I love heights. I find getting above 20’ tough due to my nerves kicking in.

Me as well. But I kill plenty of deer with my feet between 15-18 ft

 

[Samcirrus]

Me as well. But I kill plenty of deer with my feet between 15-18 ft

You just choke them out after falling/landing on them?

 

[Andrew920]

You just choke them out after falling/landing on them?

Nah, I don’t have arms so I fling a spear with my feet. Kinda like that slock master guy

 

[Westfale]

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just doing another 'check my work'. tightened the water knot and attached to it foot tether with a KNUT knot and two poaches. I thought this would help keep the footloop in place moreso than a hunter's bend, for example.

What about substituting the webbing against a stirrup build from the hitch-cord and a piece of plywood?
Less knots, only the rope and the cord are bearing load. Easy to step in and out.

 

[OSUTodd]

Is it significantly easier to 2TC on smaller trees? I just attempted my first climbs on my "test tree" here by the house. It's maybe 20 to 22" diameter, and I'm having a hard time getting my leg around when I move the top tether.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Is it significantly easier to 2TC on smaller trees? I just attempted my first climbs on my "test tree" here by the house. It's maybe 20 to 22" diameter, and I'm having a hard time getting my leg around when I move the top tether.

Basketball diameter or a little bigger is probably about the ideal size to 2TC. I have climbed some fairly large diameter trees with ease. The one's that give me fits are the ones that are small, like maybe 8 or 10 inches. That seems to mostly be a foot stability issue since the tree is so rounded, being small.

 

[Samcirrus]

Is it significantly easier to 2TC on smaller trees? I just attempted my first climbs on my "test tree" here by the house. It's maybe 20 to 22" diameter, and I'm having a hard time getting my leg around when I move the top tether.

Yeah.... if you can't touch your hands around the tree almost any method is gonna be tough other than a throw ball and SRT.
For large trees like that, you can try a double footloop and you'll need a very stiff tether as well.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

On "big" trees, ones about 24 to 32 inches in diameter I climb them as usual. The biggest issue I have is the tree's diameter eating up tether length. I climb all trees about the same as far as my support foot goes. I don't throw my leg around the tree but just brace it off the side of the tree instead. The only exception to this might be on a really small diameter tree that I did not have good support on with my tether foot due to it being so rounded. The picture below shows about where my support foot goes during the climb.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

What I was referring too about big trees eating up the tether length.

 

[gcr0003]

Is it significantly easier to 2TC on smaller trees? I just attempted my first climbs on my "test tree" here by the house. It's maybe 20 to 22" diameter, and I'm having a hard time getting my leg around when I move the top tether.

Instead of doing a full wrap with your leg try just putting it on the side of the tree for support. You’ll need to be on a straight side or rope side of a lean for this to be done easily.

I find 20-22” very stable to climb and the biggest issue when going bigger is it limits how far you can move the rope up each move.

 

[gcr0003]

What I was referring too about big trees eating up the tether length.

It is nice to have the rope out of the way for a climb though! One very minuscule pro lol.

I requested brocky make me some 10 ft tethers with spliced eyes and I found climbing anything smaller than 2’ trees with 10’ tethers a royal pain due to all the extra rope. I was going to cut them down a foot or so but a mouse decided he was going to do it for me. Unfortunately he chewed half way through about the middle of the tethers, making them about useless. That’s why I used half of one for a bridge lol. I had my gear in totes so I’m unsure how or when he got to them.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Ideally, I look for a tree that will be about shoulder width at hunting height so I can hide behind the trunk to avoid being seen by the deer. My tethers are optimized for this but there is a fair margin of adjustment in either direction. The small trees and the big trees will be sort of out of spec for it, but I am only climbing those a few times a season.

A few out of spec trees, lol.

The last picture, the little pine, was the most annoying of them all.

 

[tullybluejay]

This may have been addressed somewhere in the 193 pages, but I was wondering why no one has a footloop on both tethers. One on the foot tether and one attached above the saddle attachment on the main tether. I have been messing around with 2tc climbing and find this much easier and quicker to climb. I step up on the foot tether and wrap my other leg around the tree to move my main tether up, then step into the loop on the main tether and my other leg wraps around the tree while I move the foot tether up. I don't have to sit into my saddle at all. Only if I slipped would I sit back into my saddle, as it would catch me.

Just curious, as I don't find any videos or discussion. Again, this may have been talked about somewhere previously.

 

[gcr0003]

This may have been addressed somewhere in the 193 pages, but I was wondering why no one has a footloop on both tethers. One on the foot tether and one attached above the saddle attachment on the main tether. I have been messing around with 2tc climbing and find this much easier and quicker to climb. I step up on the foot tether and wrap my other leg around the tree to move my main tether up, then step into the loop on the main tether and my other leg wraps around the tree while I move the foot tether up. I don't have to sit into my saddle at all. Only if I slipped would I sit back into my saddle, as it would catch me.

Just curious, as I don't find any videos or discussion. Again, this may have been talked about somewhere previously.

It’s been talked about and done by some. I didn’t like it. If it works for you go for it. I found it more cumbersome than it was worth the couple times I tried it but I’m not against trying it again for fun. If you got time to record a video of you climbing this way or showing your set up we’d be interested in seeing it.

 

[tullybluejay]

It’s been talked about and done by some. I didn’t like it. If it works for you go for it. I found it more cumbersome than it was worth the couple times I tried it but I’m not against trying it again for fun. If you got time to record a video of you climbing this way or showing your set up we’d be interested in seeing it.

I will see what I can do to get a video. I'm waiting for a bit of a cool down before doing any more practice!

 

[DroptineKrazy]

This may have been addressed somewhere in the 193 pages, but I was wondering why no one has a footloop on both tethers. One on the foot tether and one attached above the saddle attachment on the main tether. I have been messing around with 2tc climbing and find this much easier and quicker to climb. I step up on the foot tether and wrap my other leg around the tree to move my main tether up, then step into the loop on the main tether and my other leg wraps around the tree while I move the foot tether up. I don't have to sit into my saddle at all. Only if I slipped would I sit back into my saddle, as it would catch me.

Just curious, as I don't find any videos or discussion. Again, this may have been talked about somewhere previously.

Well, the guy that sorta started the 2tc thing way back (Akins maybe, I'm terrible with names) didn't use a saddle. At least I don't remember him using one but you gotta bring it with ya soooooooo?

 

[gcr0003]

I will see what I can do to get a video. I'm waiting for a bit of a cool down before doing any more practice!

When standing on the top tether how do you progress the bottom tether without it getting in the way of the top tether? I seem to remember not having much room unless you rotate one to the left side and the other to the right, which throws off balance quite a bit.

 

[tullybluejay]

When standing on the top tether how do you progress the bottom tether without it getting in the way of the top tether? I seem to remember not having much room unless you rotate one to the left side and the other to the right, which throws off balance quite a bit.

I didn't have any issues. To start I have my foot tether about waist high with my left foot in the loop, on the ground. I put my main tether about as high as I can reach to allow room for a friction hitch with carabiner that I connect to a daisy chain, that attaches to my foot loop. I adjust the length so that my right foot about splits the difference between my foot tether and the ground. My saddle is adjusted up to just take the slack out of the tether. I just put my right toes into the center of the tree and step up on the loop and wrap my left leg to the left around the tree. I then move the foot tether up and center my left toes into the center of the tree and step up. I then wrap my right leg around the right of the tree while I advance my main tether up. I have plenty of room to move and stay balanced.

My foot loop attaches to my main tether like Scott Adkins attaches his thigh loop. Mine just goes all the way down to a foot loop instead of thigh. Again, I haven't had any trouble with having room to move tethers.

That's a lot of hot air there. I hope it makes some sense! When I get a chance I'll try to get pics and video.

 

[gcr0003]

I didn't have any issues. To start I have my foot tether about waist high with my left foot in the loop, on the ground. I put my main tether about as high as I can reach to allow room for a friction hitch with carabiner that I connect to a daisy chain, that attaches to my foot loop. I adjust the length so that my right foot about splits the difference between my foot tether and the ground. My saddle is adjusted up to just take the slack out of the tether. I just put my right toes into the center of the tree and step up on the loop and wrap my left leg to the left around the tree. I then move the foot tether up and center my left toes into the center of the tree and step up. I then wrap my right leg around the right of the tree while I advance my main tether up. I have plenty of room to move and stay balanced.

My foot loop attaches to my main tether like Scott Adkins attaches his thigh loop. Mine just goes all the way down to a foot loop instead of thigh. Again, I haven't had any trouble with having room to move tethers.

That's a lot of hot air there. I hope it makes some sense! When I get a chance I'll try to get pics and video.

Yea that’s basically what I tried as well, Scott’s method but replace the thigh thing with a foot loop. My biggest weakness was not having something to keep the loops on my feet. Maybe that would help some.

 

[tailgunner]

Yes