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Wild Edge step rope w/ carabiner?

POC

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I've been thinking of changing the rope on my steps and adding a prussik and carabiner to make fitting them to the tree quicker. Other than adding weight, any downsides?

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WannaBMonkey

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I doubt that you'll be able to cinch up a prussic tight enough for the steps to be solid and stable. When done correctly, the ropes are as tight as a fiddle string. And anything less leads to step slipping around and not being stable ( or safe, IMO).
 

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I doubt that you'll be able to cinch up a prussic tight enough for the steps to be solid and stable. When done correctly, the ropes are as tight as a fiddle string. And anything less leads to step slipping around and not being stable ( or safe, IMO).
Agreed 100%. Once you get the ropes figured out you cant really beat em.
 

AWoods1605

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After my first hunt with my WE steps I was ready to throw them out of sight. I stuck with them tho and they’re my fav climbing method by far. I also use the knaider swaider combo with them. The rope tightness takes some getting use to but once you get it figured out they’re hard to beat.
 

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If you want to try something like that, try a climbing stick strap with a cam buckle. Similar to how primal steps go on. Take one loop under the cross bar (from back to front) bring it up and slide it over one of the stand offs. Go around the tree, put the other end of the strap on the other stand off the same way. Cinch to the right tension and cam as normal. This method allows for easy fine tuning of the tightness.

@Peterk1234 has a thread about sewing some straps on and using a flat hook to attach the cam buckle.

there is a potential for clanking but not too bad if you’re careful and you silence the buckles.
 

TreeCreep

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Agree with all above. Practice and the ropes become easy and you 'll be confident pretty quick. I'm new to this method and prefer it to sticks at the moment.
Read up on here and watch a few utube videos.
I bought my set after reading suggestions on other threads. Only five steps offer alot of versatility . Im considering a larger set for odd / larger diameter trees.
 

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I went down the same rabbit hole. At first you question these stepps and think "there's gotta be a better solution, the steps are amazing but securing them is tricky at times"

I've done a ton of research and just haven't found a better way to do it. I wish there was. However, like others have said just practice practice practice and you'll soon realize that they are great when you are confident with them. The rope material is actually really good for the application. Stick with it!

If you do end up finding a solution please share it with us.
 

sojourner

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Sometimes the saddle community is so fixated on DIY and nothing Is good enough until modified.

In the case of the Stepps, it appears you (and others) are trying to put together a “solution” in search of a problem.

IMO, the only thing that may add value to the Stepps is some stealth strips or hockey tape to make it quieter when taking them out of or putting them in the bag.

Get the ropes stretched out, and practice and no need to try aiders until you are comfortable with the Stepps.
 

WannaBMonkey

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Sometimes the saddle community is so fixated on DIY and nothing Is good enough until modified.

In the case of the Stepps, it appears you (and others) are trying to put together a “solution” in search of a problem.

IMO, the only thing that may add value to the Stepps is some stealth strips or hockey tape to make it quieter when taking them out of or putting them in the bag.

Get the ropes stretched out, and practice and no need to try aiders until you are comfortable with the Stepps.
Amen, Brother! Last season was my first with them and I still feel a little iffy if the camover isn't perfect. Getting more comfortable all the time but not to the point I want to add any more variables into the mix. That said, I absolutely love using them. Portability can't be beat. No regrets whatsoever that I chose these after much research into climbing methods before pulling the trigger on them. I have no desire to change anything about them.
 

POC

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I wasn't trying to change something that didn't need to be changed or so caught up with changing something just to be changing it. I thought it might be an improvement.
Excuse me.

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WannaBMonkey

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I wasn't trying to change something that didn't need to be changed or so caught up with changing something just to be changing it. I thought it might be an improvement.
Excuse me.

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Hey, Bro, I don't think anyone was accusing you of that. We're all just making the point that they are about as good as they can be, as is. Yeah, at first they seem to be a PITB. But the more you do it, the easier it gets. And when done correctly, as they are, without any modifications, they are rock solid and don't really take that long to put on. I used climbers for years and I figure by the time I hump a climber in, get it off my back, and attached to the tree, and climb aboard, I can have half my steps on already. The other half takes no longer than inch worming the climber up the tree. So, just be patient and you'll get the stock ropes down. On behalf of all of us, I am sorry if it sounded like we were giving you the business. Just trying to help out a fellow diaper monkey! Welcome to the clan, Bro!
 

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I wasn't trying to change something that didn't need to be changed or so caught up with changing something just to be changing it. I thought it might be an improvement.
Excuse me.

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I wasn’t trying to be harsh or to offend you. I’ve used Stepps since when Jim Stepp sold them. I also use sticks.

I’ve seen all kinds of attempts to “improve” them, but they didn’t address the main issue. And that issue is to get the right tension to cam them over. Even recently, someone is welding metal on them to attach a timber hitch.

Regardless of what Is done, the proper tension has to be applied for the cam over. And all those other DIY methods attempt to do is to remove that from the equation. It cannot be removed. That is the genius of the Stepps.

Whatever tool you use, I wish you safety and success in your season.
 
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