Would you hunt a 2 acre property?

[arrow30]

hunt it like you own it!

 

[swampdonkey]

The last thing I would do is tell everyone in the neighborhood I am hunting. The last thing you want to do is have some anti hunter clanking pots and pans or calling the cops because they think they can stop it. The cops will come and screw up your hunt when called. Stealth is your friend, get in quietly, take high percentage shots. IF and only IF you have to track a deer, do you ask for permission from neighbors to track on their land. Do you go and meet everyone that has property around your land in the country. You are trespassing on their property if you track a deer there too.

Guys with attitudes like yours turn non hunters into anti hunters.

Hunters are outnumbered in this country 100 to 1 and need to do the right thing every single time. I DO ask for permission IN ADVANCE to track deer in the country too.

 

[Loopwing]

Guys with attitudes like yours turn non hunters into anti hunters.

Hunters are outnumbered in this country 100 to 1 and need to do the right thing every single time. I DO ask for permission IN ADVANCE to track deer in the country too.

I guess we have had different experiences. Happy all your urban archery experiences have been positive.
How is not asking permission in advance the wrong thing? "Excuse me sir, I might never need to cross your land, but just on the slight outside chance I MIGHT have to track a deer on your property. Oh you don't agree with hunting and now you are going to do everything in your power to stop me from hunting" Been there and done that.

 

[swampdonkey]

I guess we have had different experiences. Happy all your urban archery experiences have been positive.
How is not asking permission in advance the wrong thing? "Excuse me sir, I might never need to cross your land, but just on the slight outside chance I MIGHT have to track a deer on your property. Oh you don't agree with hunting and now you are going to do everything in your power to stop me from hunting" Been there and done that.

Well, i left a comment above about losing some nice deer when people denied access to me to continue to track deer across their land. That’s what leads me to advise to not hunt a small 2 acre parcel unless you know you can track deer onto the neighboring properties. Particularly when anyone whose killed a deer or two knows you’re not regularly shooting them on 2 acres and having them fall on that 2 acres. Most often you’ll be retrieving them from your neighbors property.

Just curious, what’s your plan for retrieving a deer on your neighbors property when you shoot one and it turns out they’re that crazy anti hunter you describe and they tell you to go pound sand when you ask if you can go get your deer?

 

[mattsteg]

Well, i left a comment above about losing some nice deer when people denied access to me to continue to track deer across their land. That’s what leads me to advise to not hunt a small 2 acre parcel unless you know you can track deer onto the neighboring properties. Particularly when anyone whose killed a deer or two knows you’re not regularly shooting them on 2 acres and having them fall on that 2 acres. Most often you’ll be retrieving them from your neighbors property.

Just curious, what’s your plan for retrieving a deer on your neighbors property when you shoot one and it turns out they’re that crazy anti hunter you describe and they tell you to go pound sand when you ask if you can go get your deer?

What's your go/no-go theshold? No hunt is a 100% sure-thing (although you can and should be much more conservative on a small parcel). Is it no anti-hunters within a mile? 1/2 mile? 500 yards? 200 yards? Is it a 1/1000 chance a recovery ends there? 1/100? 1/10? 1/5? 1/2? Where do you place your personal line?

 

[Zero One Actual]

I just use my Bluetooth nocks I have tethered to my drone feed. I then launch my drone to locate the deer. I then do several days of recon on the neighbors arrival and departure times and go and retrieve the deer when they are gone. I go in via parachute Infil with NVGs on. I then skin the deer, dress up as the deer and exfil undetected. Super doable on two acres. Renting the plane is the hardest part.














Derail Complete.

 

[swampdonkey]

What's your go/no-go theshold? No hunt is a 100% sure-thing (although you can and should be much more conservative on a small parcel). Is it no anti-hunters within a mile? 1/2 mile? 500 yards? 200 yards? Is it a 1/1000 chance a recovery ends there? 1/100? 1/10? 1/5? 1/2? Where do you place your personal line?

Pretty simple, neighboring properties don’t let me track after asking and there is zero realistic chance (2 acres) the deer consistently die on the property i can hunt i’ll hunt elsewhere. I mean, it’s not that complicated.

Sort of a pointless comment as the question is regarding 2 acres and ive hunted this very scenario and it’s cost me nice deer that were left to rot on neighboring properties which is a total waste and not what hunters should be about. I learned my lesson and i’ll never do it again.

What you need to be asking is what is your plan when the inevitable happens and that buck you shot ends up running the 30 yards to your neighbors property that won’t let you go get it. You willing to kill bucks that are going to rot? Or you going to become a trespasser and break the law and just go get it? Because you’re lying to yourself if you think you have a chance a bow shot deer will consistently die within a 2 acre plot. I mean, the spot i had was 10 acres abutting a large subdivision on the edge of town and i had deer make it off that 10 acres.

An ethical hunter needs to cover his bases in such a situation.

 

[mattsteg]

What you need to be asking is what is your plan when the inevitable happens and that buck you shot ends up running the 30 yards to your neighbors property that won’t let you go get it.

There's a huge difference between a deer running 30 yards onto a specific neighboring property vs running 200 yards out of its way onto an adjacent lot while you hunt the back property line (adjacent to a friendly) of a 150ft wide 2 acre lot. It can happen, of course...but depending on the property the odds may be very much against it.

Also local laws, norms, and relationships matter.

 

[swampdonkey]

There's a huge difference between a deer running 30 yards onto a specific neighboring property vs running 200 yards out of its way onto an adjacent lot while you hunt the back property line (adjacent to a friendly) of a 150ft wide 2 acre lot. It can happen, of course...but depending on the property the odds may be very much against it.

Also local laws, norms, and relationships matter.

There is one scenario being asked about here, 2 acres.

On 2 acres the deer WILL die on the neighbors property often. If you can’t retrieve the deer why would you hunt there?

 

[mattsteg]

There is one scenario being asked about here, 2 acres.

On 2 acres the deer WILL die on the neighbors property often. If you can’t retrieve the deer why would you hunt there?

But which neighbor? The one 20 yards away,or the one 200 yards away? Or crossing to yet another property?

 

[swampdonkey]

But which neighbor? The one 20 yards away,or the one 200 yards away? Or crossing to yet another property?

Geez man, you still have a FB account by any chance?

 

[krub6b]

But which neighbor? The one 20 yards away,or the one 200 yards away? Or crossing to yet another property?

That question is the reason I would talk to all of them.
A perfectly square 2 acre lot is 295 ft by 295 ft, so if you hunt in ft the very center of it you have less than 50 yards to every property line. I've seen deer pile up inside 30 yards when shot through the liver and run 200+ yards when double lunged. There's a lot of variables, but if the deer density is high, most neighbors won't be upset by a few of them being removed. I'd rather know before I decide to hunt where I can and can't retrieve from. I'd consider hunting the property even if not everyone was willing to let me retrieve from their property, but it would take a long look at the areas food and cover to make that call.

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[HuumanCreed]

I would hunt it if the condition is right. But I would honestly ask AND notify my immediate neighbors prior to hunting it in regards to my property, you have to consider yours. A few of them have horses and it never hurt to ask permission. You also have to get a feel of your area and the only way to get that is by meeting people. Seeing your neighbor wearing camo as you drive by MIGHT indicates they are ok with hunters....MIGHT! Everyone situation is different and a lot of things need to take into account. A 2 acre in the center of a developed community is different from one that is on the edge of a farmland or forest ya know? My area is like a battlefield during gun season so I think the demographic favor hunting.

Wife is the only reason I don't hunt my property because they are her pets, woman already named a few.

BTW be sure of the LAWS. 50 yards does not mean JUST from the spot that you fire the weapon. I can be wrong about this, but it also means 50 yards from the IMPACT point and ARROW PATH. Like you cannot shoot a deer if he's 50 yards near a building or if there is a building between you and them. I'm 99% sure about this. But this is Maryland's. PA might be different. So you have to take that into account.

 

[ssramage]

Yep, I do all the time. I love hunting small residential areas. Been doing it for 15+ years.

 

[mattsteg]

That question is the reason I would talk to all of them.
A perfectly square 2 acre lot is 295 ft by 295 ft, so if you hunt in ft the very center of it you have less than 50 yards to every property line. I've seen deer pile up inside 30 yards when shot through the liver and run 200+ yards when double lunged. There's a lot of variables, but if the deer density is high, most neighbors won't be upset by a few of them being removed. I'd rather know before I decide to hunt where I can and can't retrieve from. I'd consider hunting the property even if not everyone was willing to let me retrieve from their property, but it would take a long look at the areas food and cover to make that call.

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Around here, lots seem to be much more rectangular than square - quite a bit deeper than wide, with substantially more cover on the end further from the road. Like you say - even a double lung or heartshot deer *might* drop on the spot, or might take off running - and it's well worth at least knowing the score regarding who's going to be more friendly or less friendly to recovery efforts as well as the overall community sentiment. The solution to that may or may not be to talk to everyone (and who is "everyone" anyway? It's not just adjacent properties that may be in-play.). At some point you should know your neighbors and their general disposition. Know the neighbor lady who feeds the deer would not love them folded up next to her feeder, but that as long as that doesn't happen it's fine. Know the neighbor who's a vegetarian (but has hunting relatives) who won't like it but could be manageable. Know that the guy down the road has a 3d deer out back, and the other guy has a stand.

 

[131north]

I read a Penn St. research paper that claimed that 6% of the population hunts, and surprisingly 79% had positive sentiments towards legal hunting. You're more likely to encounter the 21% in urban areas, I imagine, but if true those statistics would indicate you'll get the green light more often than not.

 

[swampdonkey]

I would hunt it if the condition is right. But I would honestly ask AND notify my immediate neighbors prior to hunting it in regards to my property, you have to consider yours. A few of them have horses and it never hurt to ask permission. You also have to get a feel of your area and the only way to get that is by meeting people. Seeing your neighbor wearing camo as you drive by MIGHT indicates they are ok with hunters....MIGHT! Everyone situation is different and a lot of things need to take into account. A 2 acre in the center of a developed community is different from one that is on the edge of a farmland or forest ya know? My area is like a battlefield during gun season so I think the demographic favor hunting.

Wife is the only reason I don't hunt my property because they are her pets, woman already named a few.

BTW be sure of the LAWS. 50 yards does not mean JUST from the spot that you fire the weapon. I can be wrong about this, but it also means 50 yards from the IMPACT point and ARROW PATH. Like you cannot shoot a deer if he's 50 yards near a building or if there is a building between you and them. I'm 99% sure about this. But this is Maryland's. PA might be different. So you have to take that into account.

You bring up a good point about the laws. In WI you can’t discharge a firearm within 100yards of an occupied building without their permission even if you’re on public land.

In my rural town you also can’t fire a bow within 100 yards of an occupied building without the owners permission even if you’re in your own backyard. I shoot my bow for practice in my yard and talked to both my neighbors along the back of my property about it. Both of them are cool with it as i stand on the property line and shoot towards my own garage instead of shooting in the direction of their properties.

It’s awesome to get a small suburban tract of land to hunt but imo a responsible, ethical hunter has to be conscious and courteous to the neighbors on such a small 2 acre plot.

 

[thedutchtouch]

Man, there's a lot of mistrust and negativity on here. I get it, there are jerks out there, but I'd be willing to bet that you get a lot more success in these small tracts by talking to people, instead of trying to hide and sneak or by trying to force their hand by asking after the deer is already dead. Would I hunt the parcel? Of course. But that requires proper planning, and talking with the neighbors. Man I WISH I had this problem, public only for me...

 

[dougell]

That question is the reason I would talk to all of them.
A perfectly square 2 acre lot is 295 ft by 295 ft, so if you hunt in ft the very center of it you have less than 50 yards to every property line. I've seen deer pile up inside 30 yards when shot through the liver and run 200+ yards when double lunged. There's a lot of variables, but if the deer density is high, most neighbors won't be upset by a few of them being removed. I'd rather know before I decide to hunt where I can and can't retrieve from. I'd consider hunting the property even if not everyone was willing to let me retrieve from their property, but it would take a long look at the areas food and cover to make that call.

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One acre is 208'x208'.

 

[dougell]

I would talk to my neighbors and see how they feel.There a legit chance that many are sick of the deer and won't have an issue.