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Your 2024 Elk Hunt

Back on topic, I was applying for limited entry Utah but decided I was throwing my money away after about 6 or 7 years.

With all the point creepy and changes for tags in all the states out west, I'm starting to think I should just go once and pay for a guided hunt. Any recommendations on that? I haven't researched it much, as far as which states allocate tags to guides, etc. If I go guide, I'm guessing I still need to draw a tag? If I'm paying for a guide, maybe I should just go with an easier state to draw in and assume a good guide will get me on elk?

I'm also debating going to Canada for moose as a one time trip, so my actual result is I haven't done anything for either so far.

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sureshot said:
Just for clarification, altitude sickness and dehydration are two different issues. Being at altitude requires you to increase water intake due to increased "dehydration factors", but that is not altitude sickness. Dehydration causes headaches and altitude sickness causes headaches, but other than that they are different.

Yes, you need to consume a lot more water, but that will not prevent altitude sickness. Everyone's body reacts differently to altitude. The only real treatment for altitude is the body spending time in it to acclimate. There is a prescription that is supposed to help with symptoms, but I haven't tried it. I plan to next time I go. The other treatment is to drop down in altitude. Even going down a 1000' can make a big difference.

I get headaches everytime I go to altitude. I've been out for 10 days and still had headaches the last day. I also don't sleep well. I really hate when people tell me to drink more water to fix it. I've drank so much I had to pee every 20 minutes.

One year while skiing at Breckenridge I had it really bad and probably should have gone to the ER. It probably didn't help that I went all the way to the top to ski the first day 13K plus feet. I felt sick, tossed and turned all night, my heart rate was 110-125 bpm resting and my O2 levels were in the low 80s. I went to outpatient the next morning, but I was doing better by then.

One other thing I've found to help is to take aspirin. The baby pilla day ahead of time, and then take aspirin instead of ibuprofen when you do get headaches. I think the thinning of the blood helps somehow, but it does better for the headaches.

Sorry for the long rant, but I'm familiar and sensitive to this topic and there's a lot of misunderstanding on the subject.

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I’m not disagreeing with anything you’re saying and I agree that dehydration and altitude sickness are different things and that drinking more water won’t cure altitude sickness. But I’m finding some sources saying dehydration will increase the likelihood of altitude sickness by reducing the body’s ability to acclimatize to lower oxygen levels.

Either way it’s always a good idea to stay hydrated.
 
sureshot said:
Back on topic, I was applying for limited entry Utah but decided I was throwing my money away after about 6 or 7 years.

With all the point creepy and changes for tags in all the states out west, I'm starting to think I should just go once and pay for a guided hunt. Any recommendations on that? I haven't researched it much, as far as which states allocate tags to guides, etc. If I go guide, I'm guessing I still need to draw a tag? If I'm paying for a guide, maybe I should just go with an easier state to draw in and assume a good guide will get me on elk?

I'm also debating going to Canada for moose as a one time trip, so my actual result is I haven't done anything for either so far.

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Utah is great and offers a ton of opportunities. The premium units are extremely tough. However, there are some really good hunts in that 6 point range. A guide is great and can really be helpful but that depends on what you want. There are also spike and cow hunts that take place in the top units. Tons of action and can draw most of the time.
 
Camelcluch said:
Elizabeth. Southeast of Denver. I’m in the plains region.
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I’ll be out this spring with my wife and 14 yr old son near Basalt. We will mainly be hiking/camping but will have a day or two to sightsee. Anything worth visiting within a few hours of Basalt that you can think of?
 
The Go Home Bag. Not really a big deal but I get a lot of comments from people on this bag. I pack a bag with clean clothes and whatever items I want to go home with. At the end of the trip it’s awesome to put on fresh socks and undies. I use a small nylon bag (I used to use a Walmart bag but my governor is a communist) and it goes under a seat out of the way only to be pulled out after the hunt.
 
Camelcluch said:
The Go Home Bag. Not really a big deal but I get a lot of comments from people on this bag. I pack a bag with clean clothes and whatever items I want to go home with. At the end of the trip it’s awesome to put on fresh socks and undies. I use a small nylon bag (I used to use a Walmart bag but my governor is a communist) and it goes under a seat out of the way only to be pulled out after the hunt.
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Yep, I do the same with desert biathlons. 3 day event in the desert, nice to get cleaned up and put on clean clothes for the long, long drive home.
 
Camelcluch said:
Not your last just have to figure out how to play the game after the changes.
If your buddies are new , make sure to give them specific jobs. Like someone plans food and the other camp spots. Start an OnX file to share ideas in.
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I have never had a hunting app so a little confused about which OnX to purchase. I search OnX and several options come up.
I guess I would need a multi state option so I can practice here in GA before the trip.

Also what type/brand of emergency phone should I purchase?
 
Just_Hangin_N_GA said:
I have never had a hunting app so a little confused about which OnX to purchase. I search OnX and several options come up.
I guess I would need a multi state option so I can practice here in GA before the trip.

Also what type/brand of emergency phone should I purchase?
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I think if you're going with Onx it is the elite version.

For satellite safety device there are a bunch of options. If it were me, I would go with the Garmin Inreach Messenger or the Garmin Inreach mini 2. There is also Zoleo, Spot X, and Motorola Defy Satellite Link to name a few. There are more choices out there as well.

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Homebrew454 said:
I think if you're going with Onx it is the elite version.

For satellite safety device there are a bunch of options. If it were me, I would go with the Garmin Inreach Messenger or the Garmin Inreach mini 2. There is also Zoleo, Spot X, and Motorola Defy Satellite Link to name a few. There are more choices out there as well.

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You hit the nail on the head about how many options there are for emergency satellite devices, overwhelming to be exact. This seems like an item not to be cheap on but was hoping someone would know if there is one or two that are hands down the
best.
The Colorado wildlife division actually recommended the OnX app, They are sending me the state regulations book and a few other items.
Thank you.
 
Just_Hangin_N_GA said:
You hit the nail on the head about how many options there are for emergency satellite devices, overwhelming to be exact. This seems like an item not to be cheap on but was hoping someone would know if there is one or two that are hands down the
best.
The Colorado wildlife division actually recommended the OnX app, They are sending me the state regulations book and a few other items.
Thank you.
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The Garmin are what I would get. I'm leaning the Messenger as it connects with your phone through Bluetooth and allowed messaging. There is an emergency button to press as well.

The Messenger also allows you to message and coordinate with rescue personnel, which is a great feature. Garmin owns the company that dispatches rescue as well. I believe this feature is only available on Garmin Messenger, but it has been a couple of years since I researched it.



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Just_Hangin_N_GA said:
You hit the nail on the head about how many options there are for emergency satellite devices, overwhelming to be exact. This seems like an item not to be cheap on but was hoping someone would know if there is one or two that are hands down the
best.
The Colorado wildlife division actually recommended the OnX app, They are sending me the state regulations book and a few other items.
Thank you.
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I went down this rabbit hole last year. I don't remember all of the details but, I ended up getting the Garmin InReach Messenger. How companies structure the monthly plans can end up being the biggest cost.

The Zoleo is a little cheaper and I think is what @BTaylor uses. I misunderstood their plan pricing or I probably would have looked at it harder. I thought you had to pay $4 per month when it was inactive. I now understand you can cancel it, you will just get a new number when you re-activate it.
 
Just_Hangin_N_GA said:
I have never had a hunting app so a little confused about which OnX to purchase. I search OnX and several options come up.
I guess I would need a multi state option so I can practice here in GA before the trip.

Also what type/brand of emergency phone should I purchase?
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For OnX it’s the Elitle or you can use GoHunt. Just the maps are $50 and the full membership is $150. Plenty of codes will give you $50 back to the GoHunt shop.
Hard to beat Garmin for a communicator.
 
GCTerpfan said:
I went down this rabbit hole last year. I don't remember all of the details but, I ended up getting the Garmin InReach Messenger. How companies structure the monthly plans can end up being the biggest cost.

The Zoleo is a little cheaper and I think is what @BTaylor uses. I misunderstood their plan pricing or I probably would have looked at it harder. I thought you had to pay $4 per month when it was inactive. I now understand you can cancel it, you will just get a new number when you re-activate it.
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Yep you can shut it down or switch to standby mode which is what I normally do.
 
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