• The SH Membership has gone live. Only SH Members have access to post in the classifieds. All members can view the classifieds. Starting in 2020 only SH Members will be admitted to the annual hunting contest. Current members will need to follow these steps to upgrade: 1. Click on your username 2. Click on Account upgrades 3. Choose SH Member and purchase.
  • We've been working hard the past few weeks to come up with some big changes to our vendor policies to meet the changing needs of our community. Please see the new vendor rules here: Vendor Access Area Rules

5lb climbing method - Aider/Knaider with Wild Edge Stepp Ladders

FletchDeep

FletchDeep

Active Member
Aug 7, 2018
169
243
43
31
How deep is the hook on a knaider? My main concern would be when you are leaning over to hook the 5 step aider hanging only by the knaider seems like the most probable time for your foot to kickout. Never used a knaider so I have no idea how much wiggle room you have before your sliding down hoping the linemans will catch.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Aeds151
kyler1945

kyler1945

Well-Known Member
SH Member
Dec 4, 2016
6,921
13,745
113
38
Willis, TX
LOCATION
Willis, TX
FletchDeep said:
How deep is the hook on a knaider? My main concern would be when you are leaning over to hook the 5 step aider hanging only by the knaider seems like the most probable time for your foot to kickout. Never used a knaider so I have no idea how much wiggle room you have before your sliding down hoping the linemans will catch.
Click to expand...

I wouldn't lean "over" to attach or detach these systems. You need to lean "back" into your lineman's belt. This is the key to all of these methods, and feeling safe, and being stable. If you're leaning over or to the side or hunched over to hook and unhook, your lineman's is either loose, or at an improper angle to your body and won't be much help. Like Fat Joe says - Lean back...
 
  • Like
Reactions: donnieballgame
W

Wmihunter

Active Member
Oct 13, 2018
117
24
18
43
Michigan
Greg, can u post what type of aider was used as well as where to purchase and where to get a solid lightweight caribener?
 
W

Wmihunter

Active Member
Oct 13, 2018
117
24
18
43
Michigan
Where did u get the Knaider made? Any links I can be referred to? Is it safe to put the carbiner from the platform to the aider. Will the platform hold the weight with all the pressure in one spot?
 
S

sworrior

Member
Sep 20, 2018
91
26
18
39
G2, I am looking into this method. The problem I have had with a couple of the etriers I have put my hands on are that the loops aren't big enough. When I follow your link there are 2 options for the aider, one yellow and one black, and they look to be different based on the pictures. In your video yours is blue... I want to order the correct one and actually be able to use it due to the steps being big enough to get my boot into.

Can you point me in the right direction please? Thanks!

-Preston
 
W

Wmihunter

Active Member
Oct 13, 2018
117
24
18
43
Michigan
redsquirrel said:
This works well. Here is a photo I took the day Greg and I first discussed this. I later went and hit 18 foot with 3 stepps and an aider.
0088eee07f138528462c2dc47e19c38c.jpg
Click to expand...
Which aider is that?
 
fbwguy

fbwguy

Moderator
Staff member
SH Member
Mar 19, 2018
3,060
4,392
113
55
Cato Arkansas
I used G2’s amazon link off YouTube. Must be SaddleHunter effect. In stock numbers dropping quickly. I ordered the yellow will be here Thursday
 
  • Like
Reactions: rutjr
kenn1320

kenn1320

Well-Known Member
Sep 15, 2015
2,753
990
113
sworrior said:
G2, I am looking into this method. The problem I have had with a couple of the etriers I have put my hands on are that the loops aren't big enough. When I follow your link there are 2 options for the aider, one yellow and one black, and they look to be different based on the pictures. In your video yours is blue... I want to order the correct one and actually be able to use it due to the steps being big enough to get my boot into.

Can you point me in the right direction please? Thanks!

-Preston
Click to expand...
Same here, the pics show different aider based on color and blue isn't one of them. I also have tried a 5step aider made by a company I can't recall at the moment and the steps dont stay open when trying to climb. I don't want to buy another one that is junk. Lol
 
g2outdoors

g2outdoors

Well-Known Member
Vendor Rep
Oct 3, 2014
7,448
8,638
113
42
Savannah, GA
FACEBOOK
g2outdoors
TWITTER
g2outdoors
YOUTUBE
G2Adventures
I recommend the Black Diamond or CMI 5 step aider. I've used both and they're great. The one I linked to in the video is a little lighter since they use a smaller webbing. I'm going to try that one as well.

With the knaider, it's surprisingly secure. I thought it would be sketchy when I first saw Pete demonstrate it. I have had zero kickouts with this system. However, I'm pretty much at pro level in climbing with aiders. I've been doing it for 2 or 3 years now. When used correctly with a lineman belt, I don't find aiders any less safe than climbing sticks.

Sent from my Galaxy S8.
 
  • Like
Reactions: donnieballgame, MCDM, Ontariofarmer and 1 other person
pesqimon

pesqimon

Well-Known Member
Apr 25, 2018
2,325
2,034
113
44
Massachusetts
g2outdoors said:
With the knaider, it's surprisingly secure. I thought it would be sketchy when I first saw Pete demonstrate it. I have had zero kickouts with this system.
Click to expand...

A little PSA: I have had one kick out with the knaider, but this was on about the thinnest smoothest tree you could get a WE Stepp on and it was wet! I love the knaider but I think I found the limit. I've never had an issue with a more typical tree and continue to use the knaider happily.
 
  • Like
Reactions: donnieballgame
rutjr

rutjr

Well-Known Member
Oct 6, 2018
2,067
1,829
113
71
Cumberland, RI
I also used G2's link and just received the 5 step aider. What I like about it is it's small, 3/4 wide, what I don't like about it is it's small! LOL I ran out back and tried it and like it but it's small. I used it on my LW sticks, one stick and this aider got me to about 8' or around there. One of these days I'm going to bring a tape measure with me.The other good thing about it is it only cost me $3. I had reward points.
 
Live2huntt

Live2huntt

Active Member
Jul 11, 2018
180
147
43
43
rutjr said:
I also used G2's link and just received the 5 step aider. What I like about it is it's small, 3/4 wide, what I don't like about it is it's small! LOL I ran out back and tried it and like it but it's small. I used it on my LW sticks, one stick and this aider got me to about 8' or around there. One of these days I'm going to bring a tape measure with me.The other good thing about it is it only cost me $3. I had reward points.
Click to expand...
Small as in short or small as in tough to get you foot in?

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk
 
MCDM

MCDM

Well-Known Member
Vendor Rep
Apr 18, 2014
2,457
2,221
113
42
Connecticut
g2outdoors said:
I recommend the Black Diamond or CMI 5 step aider. I've used both and they're great. The one I linked to in the video is a little lighter since they use a smaller webbing. I'm going to try that one as well.

With the knaider, it's surprisingly secure. I thought it would be sketchy when I first saw Pete demonstrate it. I have had zero kickouts with this system. However, I'm pretty much at pro level in climbing with aiders. I've been doing it for 2 or 3 years now. When used correctly with a lineman belt, I don't find aiders any less safe than climbing sticks.

Sent from my Galaxy S8.
Click to expand...

I am with you in the pro camp lol and couldn’t agree more. Its all about that practice
 
Stump06

Stump06

Well-Known Member
Jan 15, 2018
316
408
63
35
SE GA
Is there a saddlehunter thread about making the knaiders? or a member selling them? I'd like to try this method
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom