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BassboysLLP's ultimate platform

Jared M Goeson said:
Here is a better drawing for I Step.View attachment 3921
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Yea, that's basically what the part would've looked like. I think somebody ordered some FRP I beam to try out. Not sure what ever became of it. @redsquirrel tried something similar from aluminum and found out that the strap needs to be crazy tight to prevent the step from peeling away from the tree. Since the strap is closer to the pivot point than your weight, leverage isn't in your favor like it is with an Ameristep style.

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bowhunter15 said:
Yea, that's basically what the part would've looked like. I think somebody ordered some FRP I beam to try out. Not sure what ever became of it. @redsquirrel tried something similar from aluminum and found out that the strap needs to be crazy tight to prevent the step from peeling away from the tree. Since the strap is closer to the pivot point than your weight, leverage isn't in your favor like it is with an Ameristep style.

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Did he have the angled strap slot?

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Jared M Goeson said:
Did he have the angled strap slot?

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No they looked like this, with the slot being the same height as the strap width. I believe he tried moving it higher/ lower and closer/ further from the tree too. The angled slot, IMHO only really helps if you have a non - ratcheting strap, like the ClimbPaws or Stealth Step. With a ratchet, you just work the tension up with a different method.

I had 3d printed a proof of concept for the FRP step, but didn't actually buy material to cut and test.
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the conclusion was you have to find a way to get the strap above the step yeah?
 
sb220 said:
the conclusion was you have to find a way to get the strap above the step yeah?
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Yea, that's ideal. Steps like the bullman ones price that you don't absolutely need to, but the strap needs to be tighter to accommodate.

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how wide can you get those I beam things? what if you just turned a wider step(pic above) sideways on the tree with two slots cut for the strap to run in and out of

like so...

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Mag1 said:
I'm not sure what the guys are working on for their platform, but after noodling around for a bit, watching video's of how guys move around the tree, but yet not using a saddle or platform yet myself, this is an idea I came up with. It would need tweaking I am sure, FEA would tell where its not strong enough, due to standing out on an edge, etc... It would need a leveling screw, maybe more teeth, ect... I liked the idea of the angled portions for when you are off to a side, you have something to wedge yourself against. Its all together possible that the other designs (old LW seat, etc) are simpler, and maybe work better. Anyways, I just thought I'd spend an couple of lunch hours playing around. tube and casting came in at .7kilograms (1.5lbs) for aluminum. no hardware, main center ribs are .125 wide, outer ribs are .25, and a couple of heavy xsec. where some of the ribs meet.

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Very nice design. I've been watching this thread for a while and had decided I would just wait since I have no experience in a saddle myself. Can't quit thinking about it though, I was kinda thinking the same concept but what I had drawn up is huge lol. The one thing I was trying to do different is put a slight down angle on the "wings" for comfort and safety and possibly angling the rear part of the platform up. Just not sure if it would be a needed feature. Got a Kestrel coming in about 5 weeks, can't get enough of this saddle info on here.
 
bowhunter15 said:
Yea, that's basically what the part would've looked like. I think somebody ordered some FRP I beam to try out. Not sure what ever became of it. @redsquirrel tried something similar from aluminum and found out that the strap needs to be crazy tight to prevent the step from peeling away from the tree. Since the strap is closer to the pivot point than your weight, leverage isn't in your favor like it is with an Ameristep style.

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How is the I step different from the new bullman outdoors step?

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Jared M Goeson said:
How is the I step different from the new bullman outdoors step?

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Different material and manufacturing method, but simular in terms of where the strap is located relative to the foot.

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bowhunter15 said:
Different material and manufacturing method, but simular in terms of where the strap is located relative to the foot.

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Do they have the same pull away from the tree issue?

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Jared M Goeson said:
Do they have the same pull away from the tree issue?

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There are a couple reviews on here. If my memory serves me right, some have said they've needed to tighten the strap more than with the other style. Boswell has a YouTube video on them as well that would be worth looking at. I've never confirmed one way or the other personally, but that would be my suspicion.

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Would moving the strap farther out help with pulling away from the tree? I think it would help when putting side pressure on the step.
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Jared M Goeson said:
Would moving the strap farther out help with pulling away from the tree? I think it would help when putting side pressure on the step.
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I don’t think so. The problem with that is less strap in contact with the tree. I think they would either pivot or be hard to get right. The only way to really know is to try it though.
 
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