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EZV sight / Thumb Release

pesqimon said:
Listeened to the DIY Sportsman’s episode. Very curious. Thinking about tryihg it. It’s whether I want to mess with this this close to hunting season.
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I felt the same way last couple seasons. I can say this - I do not think most folks can pick this thing up and be accurate enough using it as a "rangefinder" after 30-40 shots. If you're shooting 300FPS maybe, but that also means you're likely throwing chopsticks at deer and have other issues. However, I put the sight on, got the right insert in, sighted in, and am considerably more comfortable and accurate using it as a standard sight with known distances. Seeing what I am aiming at is way better than pins for me.

This may not be the same for everyone. But if your bow is tuned up, and you shoot reasonably consistent, you should be able to shoot this thing normally in less than 50 shots. There is no learning curve there. The learning curve is in using the V to range your target. I'm at roughly 300 shots using it that way, and I feel equally as comfortable to 30 yards as I did with a pin sight. I am getting close to that level of comfort out to 40, and I suspect I'll feel good out to 50 by the time the season rolls around.

If you're shooting over 300FPS, I see no huge advantage inside of 30 yards of this sight versus a single pin sight. But if you're like me and lobbing baseball bats at them, I think it offers a significant advantage being able to draw, frame the deer and shoot.

Past 50 yards, the curve of the V gets really steep, and the ability to "measure" against the target gets dicey. Again - shooting heavy arrows really takes me out of shooting unknown distances out this far anyway. But at 60 yards, I can shoot 6" groups with the tick marks all day.

I think a realistic goal is to not think twice inside of 40 yards drawing on a deer with no ranging.
 
pesqimon said:
Listeened to the DIY Sportsman’s episode. Very curious. Thinking about tryihg it. It’s whether I want to mess with this this close to hunting season.
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I too listened to the diy and made me want to order one. So I did. It will be here next week.
 
Just wanted to put an update in. I had to audible and get into a new arrow setup - I just didn't like the way what I had was shooting, and I figured I was this deep in changes anyway, I might as well. I'm probably up to about 1000 shots through the bow now, but i'd say only 3-400 were from unknown distances using the V. I'm comfortable to 30 with no question. I simply have too much drop with heavy arrows, and not enough practice, to feel good beyond 40. I think I will continue shooting into the season a fair amount, and have no doubt I can improve that. But there's just been too many distractions to really get dialed in. In other news, I have been shooting better than I have in a long time. Release is great, sight is great. It is definitely as advertised, but like anything else, it will require some practice.

Will probably be doing a review on Iron Will 200 solids in the next couple weeks.
 
Well, I'm one week from my first scouting/hunting trip of the year in Mizzou. I feel really good about the sight, and am looking forward to punching a couple of tags with it. I will say, I'm not prepared to use the V for ranging past 40 yards. I simply couldn't get comfortable enough with it. I am practicing my visualization and trying to imagine the sphere I'm trying to frame up, but as the v straightens up, the margin for error diminishes quickly. Shooting heavy arrows, being off by 3 yards at that distance might mean a flat out miss. I have noticed one thing - every time I've missed while ranging, it's been low. Having said all of that - I do see that I will get there as I continue the "xray vision" practice. I'm not really set up with the proper targets to get this going yet. I will definitely continue shooting as the weather cools.

Some people just get it, some don't. I also had a lot of things changing during this process, so my focus on just the sight was not 100%. My shooting has improved significantly though, and I feel really good heading into the season.
 
I received mine and installed it on Monday. Sighting in was simple and in my first session I had 3 of 5 arrows in a 4 inch circle at 50yds. I love this sight.
 
If you've listened to the DIY podcast with Aaron, he mentions dropping an insert if your speed drops off at distance more than the average. I noticed with fixed heads, I'm a little low at 40 yards. Popped the next insert down into the sight, and driving tacks again. Another fix is to crank poundage up or down a pound or two to really dial it in. I'm torn right now, I'm pulling my bow so easily from having shot so much, I'm considering upping poundage a bit to get a little more oomph. Honestly, the ease with which I make adjustments, and everything makes sense, is worth the price of admission.

I've got 3 arrow setups that I've worked through:

490 grain, 16% FOC
540 grain, 20% FOC
600 grain, 18% FOC

After shooting all of them, I seem to have settled in on the 540 grain setup. I'm shooting fixed heads in plenty tight enough groups with those arrows at 50 yards to feel confident flinging one at a deer under ideal conditions. The difference in sound as the weight goes up is crazy. I have a feeling I'll end up trying to get a similar build in a 650 grain arrow next summer.

6 Days!
 
First deer down with the EZV. Drew on her three different times, and never considered pulling my rangefinder while trying to film and shoot.

I ended up taking a shot with her directly under me, facing my tree. Put it right between her shoulder blades, split her spine in half and ripped heart up, before sticking about 8” in the dirt. I followed up with a second shot as I always do if I spine a deer, but reviewing film footage, she was dead before the second arrow hit her.

I could’ve made the shot with any sight, but the first two times I drew I didn’t have to worry about distance. The shot never presented itself, and I could focus on everything happening without messing with rangefinder.

If you’re worried about hitting the middle of something without holding a pin over it, don’t.

Iron will broadheads blew through her, and we’re still shaving sharp after encountering spine and ribs


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Congrats! I installed mine and got it sighted in one afternoon. My next time shooting was a 3D match. It was nice not even having to think about yardage. I just walked up to the stake and let her rip....in fact one of my shooting companions made a comment on how fast I was releasing on target. It's just easy.
 
Just an update. I'm well over 2000 shots with the sight. I feel comfortable not touching a rangefinder out to 40 yards, even with heavy arrows and less than ideal trajectory. I don't think I'm going to shoot past that anyway, as I doubt the terrain I hunt, and the deer I typically hunt, will offer that kind of shot. I haven't brought the rangefinder in the woods with me yet this season. It feels great to have a tuned bow, hard hitting arrows with fixed broadheads, and a sight that makes shooting fun and easy. It's a no fuss setup. It is great sliding my bow to the ground and not worrying about brush grabbing a pin. Or dropping it and knocking one pin out of alignment. It's a gang adjustment if anything moves, and I'm pretty rough on my bow and it hasn't moved. I don't notice being able to shoot any later or gain much visibility, as I think my limiting factor is the peep. Next offseason, I'll try taking that out of the equation.
 
I notice better visibility in low light conditions


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@kyler1945 or anyone else. How would the ezv perform when shooting either straight down or at severe angles where you won't have the full vertical part of the body to frame?
 
redsquirrel said:
@kyler1945 or anyone else. How would the ezv perform when shooting either straight down or at severe angles where you won't have the full vertical part of the body to frame?
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If you can imagine you're using the V to frame a "basketball" or slightly larger type sphere, you will be good. For me, that's where I'm turning the corner on being able to use it to range. Yes, it lines up nicely with a deer's shoulder and last rib from the side. But if you can start developing the x-ray vision, it starts to come more instinctively. You're framing the "ball of the vitals" as Aaron says it. Also, it ends up lining you up for severe angles up/down or quartering shots when you use this method, because you're aiming at the center of a sphere - this automatically lines you up to enter top side of vitals on one side, and lower end of the off side - sort of like using a pin to aim at the center of the deer, not the spot on the front that lines up with the center on a perfect broadside.

And for a straight down shot - I took this shot in September on the doe I harvested. I drew three times and never worried about ranging - at distances from 35ish yards to right under me. I finally took the shot straight down, and put the V on either side of her body. Honestly, at point blank, it's pretty hard to miss straight down elevation-wise. But I would have passed on the shot if she was sideways under me - but she was lined up straight away from tree. Reviewing the shot in my mind - the 20 yard tick mark was basically where I was aiming subconsciously - she filled up the V right at that point. I framed her shoulder blades consciously, and released.

It really is a joy to shoot, and it's nice not worrying about pins getting busted or moved. I'm rough on equipment and this sight is what the doctor ordered for me.
 
kyler1945 said:
If you can imagine you're using the V to frame a "basketball" or slightly larger type sphere, you will be good. For me, that's where I'm turning the corner on being able to use it to range. Yes, it lines up nicely with a deer's shoulder and last rib from the side. But if you can start developing the x-ray vision, it starts to come more instinctively. You're framing the "ball of the vitals" as Aaron says it. Also, it ends up lining you up for severe angles up/down or quartering shots when you use this method, because you're aiming at the center of a sphere - this automatically lines you up to enter top side of vitals on one side, and lower end of the off side - sort of like using a pin to aim at the center of the deer, not the spot on the front that lines up with the center on a perfect broadside.

And for a straight down shot - I took this shot in September on the doe I harvested. I drew three times and never worried about ranging - at distances from 35ish yards to right under me. I finally took the shot straight down, and put the V on either side of her body. Honestly, at point blank, it's pretty hard to miss straight down elevation-wise. But I would have passed on the shot if she was sideways under me - but she was lined up straight away from tree. Reviewing the shot in my mind - the 20 yard tick mark was basically where I was aiming subconsciously - she filled up the V right at that point. I framed her shoulder blades consciously, and released.

It really is a joy to shoot, and it's nice not worrying about pins getting busted or moved. I'm rough on equipment and this sight is what the doctor ordered for me.
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I picked one up but it was too close to the season. I'm going to practice with it in the offseason. Thanks!
 
I killed a pig the other night. No picks because I didn’t retrieve (only extermination). But the shot was dead on and in low light conditions. Very happy with the results


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I've got one but I'm too nervous to use it in the middle of the season. I'll put it on this spring.
 
rutjr said:
I've got one but I'm too nervous to use it in the middle of the season. I'll put it on this spring.
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It’s an easy transition. Put the EZV on sight it in. If you don’t like it put your old sight back on. It should still be sighted in.


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