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Light weight saddle

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redsquirrel said:
Alright Kenn, since we're sharing :cool: :
This is my DIY version of a lightweight saddle. Not sure if this will be the final product or not, but it was a first round of tinkering to see what works. Ignore the green webbing portion. That was intended as a lineman's portion but I didn't like the way it came out. This saddle can be made for well less than $50.



You should start another thread chronicling the evolution of this one.
 
Waist goes down to 29", 2 liter for reference.



38" waist, HUGE spare tire. :shock: This is lineman belt position.



Attempting to show it "in position", leaning into it.



Loops in relation to my hips with saddle "in position".

 
that is not a gut ------- after 53 years I have perfected "the gut" it takes years of dedication to develop one to the level I have.... dang rookie :D
 
I think your " HUGE" spare tire is about the same size as my" little extra padding around the middle". Maybe the difference is only notable in descriptions.

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Lets go with the camera adds 20lbs. lol

Also in case anybody was wondering about using (2) of these at the same time, I tried it briefly. I put one under and one on my lower back. Due to them both being the same length and attached at the same place, I got no good support from the lower back one. I then tried them double wide touching and leaned into it, but you dont get full support of all 16". (1) is great, so Ill be sticking to that. :D
 
What are the advantages over a Sitdrag modified with a waist belt? More heavy duty?

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kenn1320 said:
Lets go with the camera adds 20lbs. lol

Also in case anybody was wondering about using (2) of these at the same time, I tried it briefly. I put one under and one on my lower back. Due to them both being the same length and attached at the same place, I got no good support from the lower back one. I then tried them double wide touching and leaned into it, but you dont get full support of all 16". (1) is great, so Ill be sticking to that. :D
The thought had occurred to me that I might pair one of the lightweight saddles with either another lightweight saddle or the sit drag or the new tribe back pad. So far none of the ones I've tried have paired well with the others. The sit drag pairs well with a harness but not with modified evo. The modified evo pairs well with the back pad, but so far none of my other saddles/slings/seats pair well with it. So I'd decided that I would just keep on using a single seat/belt/sling with maybe the back pad but probably just the saddle by itself.

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g2outdoors said:
What are the advantages over a Sitdrag modified with a waist belt? More heavy duty?

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I don't have a sit-drag so can't really comment one way or the other. From pics ive seen, for sure mine is better built and likely quieter materials. The mesh also breathes if that matters to you. I know guys complained about the neoprene and leather saddles being hot during early season, the mesh should eliminate that. I ordered this before the sit-drag became popular, so I never tried one. I took what I learned from the molle saddle and made a lighter/stronger saddle.
I put one in the mail today, so we should be getting some feedback soon. :cool:
 
Yes sir, I've got time to try it out right now and I'll be giving you guys a review. It looks awesome though. Looks like what I had in mind when I tried to sew one, but it was done by somebody who isn't completely incompetent with sewing

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essdub said:
kenn1320 said:
Lets go with the camera adds 20lbs. lol

Also in case anybody was wondering about using (2) of these at the same time, I tried it briefly. I put one under and one on my lower back. Due to them both being the same length and attached at the same place, I got no good support from the lower back one. I then tried them double wide touching and leaned into it, but you dont get full support of all 16". (1) is great, so Ill be sticking to that. :D
The thought had occurred to me that I might pair one of the lightweight saddles with either another lightweight saddle or the sit drag or the new tribe back pad. So far none of the ones I've tried have paired well with the others. The sit drag pairs well with a harness but not with modified evo. The modified evo pairs well with the back pad, but so far none of my other saddles/slings/seats pair well with it. So I'd decided that I would just keep on using a single seat/belt/sling with maybe the back pad but probably just the saddle by itself.

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Exactly!
 
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g2outdoors said:
What are the advantages over a Sitdrag modified with a waist belt? More heavy duty?

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yes. It fixes everything I don't like about the sit drag. Well thought out design. I want one. Kenn should work for new tribe
kenn1320 said:
g2outdoors said:
What are the advantages over a Sitdrag modified with a waist belt? More heavy duty?

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I don't have a sit-drag so can't really comment one way or the other. From pics ive seen, for sure mine is better built and likely quieter materials. The mesh also breathes if that matters to you. I know guys complained about the neoprene and leather saddles being hot during early season, the mesh should eliminate that. I ordered this before the sit-drag became popular, so I never tried one. I took what I learned from the molle saddle and made a lighter/stronger saddle.
I put one in the mail today, so we should be getting some feedback soon. :cool:
 
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redsquirrel said:
Alright Kenn, since we're sharing :cool: :
This is my DIY version of a lightweight saddle. Not sure if this will be the final product or not, but it was a first round of tinkering to see what works. Ignore the green webbing portion. That was intended as a lineman's portion but I didn't like the way it came out. This saddle can be made for well less than $50.



Your sewing skills definitely far exceed mine. I tried to make a molle type sling/saddle but so far I'm not at all satisfied with my webbing sewing skills.
I sold a big buck sling that I was modeling my saddle after, but I got too ambitious and added stuff I didn't need and then it got to the point where it wasn't working for me and when I tried to disassemble it, I screwed up what little was good about it.
The sling was the most comfortable thing I've sat in by far once you were up to hunting height. But it sucked while I was climbing. I tried to make a similar sling except with a padded belt for the top portion and just webbing for the bottom. I might just try to buy another sling and use one of the belts I have while climbing to hook lineman flipline up to and then either leave it on or hang it to tree while sitting in sling. My customized evo and my molle belt saddle have plenty of attachment options so I pretty much eliminated the need for a pack to haul my stuff. I might still try to get one of those outdoor type sling packs Boswell posted about, but mostly I can attach what I need to my saddle.
Maybe the Ken special lightweight saddle will be the right compromise for me. I hope.
I like to use spurs (or single rope technique ) so it's important that I can use lineman belt. The big buck sling fell short there. But I just can't get over how great it supported and cradled me once I got settled in.
At this rate, I'm gonna have enough saddles to supply a saddle hunting army. Already think I have around ten and just bought one of Kens extras

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BassBoysLLP said:
yes. It fixes everything I don't like about the sit drag. Well thought out design. I want one. Kenn should work for new tribe

Easy, this one is already expensive due to low volumes, if it had a NT sticker on it half of us couldnt afford it.
 
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essdub said:
redsquirrel said:
Alright Kenn, since we're sharing :cool: :
This is my DIY version of a lightweight saddle. Not sure if this will be the final product or not, but it was a first round of tinkering to see what works. Ignore the green webbing portion. That was intended as a lineman's portion but I didn't like the way it came out. This saddle can be made for well less than $50.



Your sewing skills definitely far exceed mine. I tried to make a molle type sling/saddle but so far I'm not at all satisfied with my webbing sewing skills.
I sold a big buck sling that I was modeling my saddle after, but I got too ambitious and added stuff I didn't need and then it got to the point where it wasn't working for me and when I tried to disassemble it, I screwed up what little was good about it.
The sling was the most comfortable thing I've sat in by far once you were up to hunting height. But it sucked while I was climbing. I tried to make a similar sling except with a padded belt for the top portion and just webbing for the bottom. I might just try to buy another sling and use one of the belts I have while climbing to hook lineman flipline up to and then either leave it on or hang it to tree while sitting in sling. My customized evo and my molle belt saddle have plenty of attachment options so I pretty much eliminated the need for a pack to haul my stuff. I might still try to get one of those outdoor type sling packs Boswell posted about, but mostly I can attach what I need to my saddle.
Maybe the Ken special lightweight saddle will be the right compromise for me. I hope.
I like to use spurs (or single rope technique ) so it's important that I can use lineman belt. The big buck sling fell short there. But I just can't get over how great it supported and cradled me once I got settled in.
At this rate, I'm gonna have enough saddles to supply a saddle hunting army. Already think I have around ten and just bought one of Kens extras

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I also have a big buck sling that I'm working on too. I have been struggling with integrating a lineman's belt option into it as well, actually that has been my problem with all my minimalist saddles. A lineman's belt option is 100% necessary for me at this point. I have got it worked out where I can wear the sling easily around my waist with a buckle and hang with a bridge and 2 carabiners. I am thinking that I might be able to double duty those biners as linemans attachments also. But I have too many projects, too much snow, and not enough time right now...

And I am also working on quite a collection of saddles myself :lol: :lol:
 
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kenn1320 said:
Easy, this one is already expensive due to low volumes, if it had a NT sticker on it half of us couldnt afford it.

Funny. Are you referring to them charging $100 for a few yards of rope, 2 carabiners, and an accessory bag?
 
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jhicks54 said:
kenn1320 said:
Easy, this one is already expensive due to low volumes, if it had a NT sticker on it half of us couldnt afford it.

Funny. Are you referring to them charging $100 for a few yards of rope, 2 carabiners, and an accessory bag?


Im not saying they are over priced, they have overhead and lots of research into their product.
 
Kenn, I sent the payment for one of these...

Looks cool. I will probably end up turning my Sit Drag into the same thing. But this set up looks cool and I'm looking forward to checking it out...
 
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