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New Old Singer

Update.....

Perhaps it was me, but the machine I had gave me trouble. I was using a #18 needle and #92 thread and tried to sew through a stack of four pieces of webbing. The machine had plenty of power to punch through the stack and if you lift the foot by hand (not with the lever) you can get almost 1/2" of clearance, but I kept getting missed stitches. I tried the same thing on an older Kenmore I had at home and had much better results. I ended up returning it. The person I bought it from said it was probably an adjustment in the bobbin. I got my money back either way. I am meeting another lady on Saturday to look at this beast. It's a 211g166. A significantly bigger machine. I have to drive into the middle of nowhere to get it but she is only charging 250$.......

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Ok, so who has actually got a machine and started using it? Which model and is it doing what we need it to do?
 
I have not used mine yet. I think I am going to send it in to a dude that does maintenance on them. I also really have no clue what needle, thread, materials to get....... I wish I had more time but right now I am scouting just about every weekend.

If someone knows someone that would sew up a few for a decent price I sure would like to get three made. Also, where are you guys getting the straps and netting material?
 
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redsquirrel said:
Ok, so who has actually got a machine and started using it? Which model and is it doing what we need it to do?
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Well my old Kenmore was able to sew four pieces of thick webbing with a #92 thread if I took my time. I haven't tried anything larger yet because I had to order thread and needles. Everything I have seen for sitdrag modifications and even ken's sling I could do on my old machine. The reason I am looking at something bigger is to be able to do thicker material and heavier thread. For those that own an evo, I want to be able to do work similar to the waist belt. There is some heavy stitching there.


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DaveT1963 said:
I have not used mine yet. I think I am going to send it in to a dude that does maintenance on them. I also really have no clue what needle, thread, materials to get....... I wish I had more time but right now I am scouting just about every weekend.

If someone knows someone that would sew up a few for a decent price I sure would like to get three made. Also, where are you guys getting the straps and netting material?
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Mesh: http://www.rockywoods.com/
webbing from strapworks, ebay or http://store.jontay.com/webbing.aspx
 
redsquirrel said:
If anyone can find an extra working one at a decent price to help me out, I have a thousand projects to do with one of these. They are really pricey in my area.

And I should ask, how much are you guys paying for them?
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I paid $150 for mine. It was in a nice cabinet with new cord and accessories. I could pay $300 for a fully refurbished one in close to new condition. But I could not buy a 66, 15 or 201 for much less than this in my area unless it didn't run.
 
redsquirrel said:
Ok, so who has actually got a machine and started using it? Which model and is it doing what we need it to do?
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I have a guy coming Tuesday to give mine a tune up: adjust the timing, oil it and show me a few things that I can't quite get from youtube or the manual. Hopefully in two weeks I have my sit drag modified pics.
 
Maustypsu said:
redsquirrel said:
If anyone can find an extra working one at a decent price to help me out, I have a thousand projects to do with one of these. They are really pricey in my area.

And I should ask, how much are you guys paying for them?
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I paid $150 for mine. It was in a nice cabinet with new cord and accessories. I could pay $300 for a fully refurbished one in close to new condition. But I could not buy a 66, 15 or 201 for much less than this in my area unless it didn't run.
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What model did you end up with Mausty?
 
redsquirrel said:
Maustypsu said:
redsquirrel said:
If anyone can find an extra working one at a decent price to help me out, I have a thousand projects to do with one of these. They are really pricey in my area.

And I should ask, how much are you guys paying for them?
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I paid $150 for mine. It was in a nice cabinet with new cord and accessories. I could pay $300 for a fully refurbished one in close to new condition. But I could not buy a 66, 15 or 201 for much less than this in my area unless it didn't run.
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What model did you end up with Mausty?
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1938 Singer 201-2.

If I had my choice I would go for the 201 or the 15-91. Then the model 66 or other model 15's. After them, I would be concerned about replacement parts.

The 66 and 15 are way heavier duty than anything you would get today. The 201 and 15-91 were "light commercial". I think the 15-91 was actually intended to be light commercial. But when I did my research there are many who prefer the 201 even for heavier work.

All of what I just said is based on internet research... so take it with the same grain of salt that you would anything that essdub says!!! :eek:
 
Bummer of a day. Was supposed to hear from the lady with the 211 last night to confirm our meeting today. Not a weird from her last night out today. Assuming she sold it to someone else. I was so exited too. Oh well keep looking I guess.

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Erniepower said:
Bummer of a day. Was supposed to hear from the lady with the 211 last night to confirm our meeting today. Not a weird from her last night out today. Assuming she sold it to someone else. I was so exited too. Oh well keep looking I guess.

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Dang... You'll get one. The 211 is supposed to be tough - made for leather work. Not sure about parts, a few sites said they were getting harder to find. However, there is a guy on Craigslist here who restores the 211 and 311 and resells. He will work on machines. So for me, I wouldn't be afraid to buy one. Parts are something to think about... although I'm sure eBay will have them I would research some of the replacement parts for them before buying.

Again, not b/c I know... just because I read several place that some have had issues.
 
I adjusted my bobbin threader, replaced the rubber wheel, added some felt pads and wound a bobbin full of upholstery thread. I was happy that I could make that adjustment from my 1941 student guide to machine sewing... It was exactly what I needed to do to fix my bobbin winder.

However, it is running slow. Like it is straining. So I think it needs oil and maybe a cleaning. There are also two wires that I found that definitely need to be replaced. Hopefully, we can get that all done on Tuesday.
 
Yeah I'll find one. Just really excited to try some ideas I have on building a new saddle from scratch. Slowly collecting parts and sketching out plans.

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Maustypsu said:
redsquirrel said:
Maustypsu said:
I paid $150 for mine. It was in a nice cabinet with new cord and accessories. I could pay $300 for a fully refurbished one in close to new condition. But I could not buy a 66, 15 or 201 for much less than this in my area unless it didn't run.
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What model did you end up with Mausty?
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1938 Singer 201-2.

If I had my choice I would go for the 201 or the 15-91. Then the model 66 or other model 15's. After them, I would be concerned about replacement parts.

The 66 and 15 are way heavier duty than anything you would get today. The 201 and 15-91 were "light commercial". I think the 15-91 was actually intended to be light commercial. But when I did my research there are many who prefer the 201 even for heavier work.

All of what I just said is based on internet research... so take it with the same grain of salt that you would anything that essdub says!!! :eek:
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Hey.! I got an idea. I think that essdub guy is ok. He's getting taken to the wood shed a lot lately. Man.

Shaun
 
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essdub said:
Hey.! I got an idea. I think that essdub guy is ok. He's getting taken to the wood shed a lot lately. Man.

Shaun
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Yeah. He's cool by me!
I've already been playing around with ideas for the back support you sent.
Wondering if I can integrate into a bridge and still have enough adjustment to make the back support helpful when I want to lean back.
 
I think for that money, I would still get a Singer. But I'd get one that has been fully restored. There is a guy on ebay who replaces every thing rubber, wires, etc except the main cast iron parts and you get a machine that will last more than 80 years again...

But, I also don't mind the hassle and expense of keeping mine up just to say I used an 80 year old sewing machine to build things that I trust my life with!!!
 
Maustypsu said:
I think for that money, I would still get a Singer. But I'd get one that has been fully restored. There is a guy on ebay who replaces every thing rubber, wires, etc except the main cast iron parts and you get a machine that will last more than 80 years again...

But, I also don't mind the hassle and expense of keeping mine up just to say I used an 80 year old sewing machine to build things that I trust my life with!!!
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I am getting ready to send mine in - mind sharing who you use (you tube dude)? Might be same guy I am thinking about sending it to but I don't know if it is worth it to ship it up north and back or find someone local?
 
DaveT1963 said:
Maustypsu said:
I think for that money, I would still get a Singer. But I'd get one that has been fully restored. There is a guy on ebay who replaces every thing rubber, wires, etc except the main cast iron parts and you get a machine that will last more than 80 years again...

But, I also don't mind the hassle and expense of keeping mine up just to say I used an 80 year old sewing machine to build things that I trust my life with!!!
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I am getting ready to send mine in - mind sharing who you use (you tube dude)? Might be same guy I am thinking about sending it to but I don't know if it is worth it to ship it up north and back or find someone local?
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My repair guy is local. He will actually come to my house - which is nice since mine is in a cabinet... I was supposed to meet him Tuesday but work has made this week impossible...
 
Maustypsu said:
I think for that money, I would still get a Singer. But I'd get one that has been fully restored. There is a guy on ebay who replaces every thing rubber, wires, etc except the main cast iron parts and you get a machine that will last more than 80 years again...

But, I also don't mind the hassle and expense of keeping mine up just to say I used an 80 year old sewing machine to build things that I trust my life with!!!
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I should have added that they can be found much cheaper than the prices on that website. $250-300 on ebay for the HD1000
 
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