redsquirrel aider on sticks

[Peterk1234]

Aider question for you guys. Is there anything unsafe, or less safe with having an aider that you can cinch onto your boot? It seems that would simplify climbing up and down. Thx Pete

 

[Ontariofarmer]

I can try it out, but I am sketchy of using multiple aiders once I get above the first stick.

Keep your moves shorter once you get off the first stick. What is a comfortable distance for the vertically challenged guys. I am older and not real tall. I have a 31 inch inseam which is really what we should be talking about with aiders. Our overall height is probably less important.
Having your foot cinched in the aider seems to add to my confidence and having that wide foot loop. I think the loop is probably 3 or 4 inches wide.

 

[DaveT1963]

my inseam is 30 inches. I think we all have to experiment and then develop a system that works for us as an individual. For me, multi-step aiders are too unreliable in the dark and like I said, 3 sticks and one fixed loop aider gets me where I want to be - so for me adding a ropeman to adjust my foot aider or to pull it higher is just not necessary. For others it may be the cat's meow.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

Aider question for you guys. Is there anything unsafe, or less safe with having an aider that you can cinch onto your boot? It seems that would simplify climbing up and down. Thx Pete

I have thought of that. If you fell and were not attached to the tree and the aider caught something like a stick it might possibly pull you sideways or in a unlikely worst case up side down. I think that this is probably more of a probability with the easy aider because of design but I think the risk is very low. Keep your aider organized . Nothing we do is without risk once we leave the ground unfortunately. Most of life's activities involve risk. Drive your car, walk down a busy city street
Reduce risk by slowing down and being methodical, attached to the tree, make sure your aider is not hooked or tangled on anything.
A good point you have for us to think about though.

The risk of not having it attached to your foot. You have to fish the aider into your boot each time. and you might drop it.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

my inseam is 30 inches. I think we all have to experiment and then develop a system that works for us as an individual. For me, multi-step aiders are too unreliable in the dark and like I said, 3 sticks and one fixed loop aider gets me where I want to be - so for me adding a ropeman to adjust my foot aider or to pull it higher is just not necessary. For others it may be the cat's meow.

Yup do what works for you.
I used a 6 step aider all fall. The only thing I hated in the dark was fishing my feet in and the very short steps. Maybe the short steps add to the stability . I am not sure. But it does add to the inefficiency
Stay upright, keep your foot tight to the tree and slow down and use your hands to hold your linemans belt or the stick above or the tree. I am sure any aider one step or multiple can kick out. I have had sticks and aiders kick out but only when I was learning to climb with them but I do not think it happened all fall. Check and double check stick placement and climb carefully and remain attached to the tree.
Rock and ice climbers take way more risk climbing but they make sure they are backed up and have good equipment and technique. Practice close to the ground.

 

[turkeyhunter729]

Where Can I find a video for red squirrels aiders. Thinking of going with something like that over my stepps


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[redsquirrel]

Where Can I find a video for red squirrels aiders. Thinking of going with something like that over my stepps


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There is none right now. I'm going to make one in the offseason.

 

[donnieballgame]

Thanks for starting this thread again lol, I never finished reading the first one, I'm a third of the way through it, it's hard catching up.

Anyway, I've been thinking about trying this but with a few modifications to make it safer.

I have been using SRT and when I climb my hand ascender is clipped to my rch with a webbing daisy chain. That way of my grigri slips I've got a backup.

I would do the same thing with this setup, that way if I slipped, my toe off the tree etc, I wouldn't end up sideways or upside down.

You could do all of this with one ropeman I think, I'm gonna play around with this, I don't have any stepps but I got a few generic ones for a platform that might work.

If someone has already done this, I apologize I haven't finished that humongous thread lol

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[redsquirrel]

I would do the same thing with this setup, that way if I slipped, my toe off the tree etc, I wouldn't end up sideways or upside down.

I don't think this would work with a stick, but it might work when the aider is girth hitched around the tree. Give it a shot.

 

[Apex7]

Keep your moves shorter once you get off the first stick. What is a comfortable distance for the vertically challenged guys. I am older and not real tall. I have a 31 inch inseam which is really what we should be talking about with aiders. Our overall height is probably less important.
Having your foot cinched in the aider seems to add to my confidence and having that wide foot loop. I think the loop is probably 3 or 4 inches wide.

It's really nice having an older guy like me here on the site that knows that we are sometimes challenged in our climbing methods.

 

[donnieballgame]

I don't think this would work with a stick, but it might work when the aider is girth hitched around the tree. Give it a shot.

Yeah, hadn't planned on putting anything on the stepp/stick, I was going to use the #redsquirrel method of the rope/tether girth hitched around the tree.

I was hoping to get some extra rope to try this as my tether isn't very long but I kinda want to try this out!