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Getting learnt with Dr. Ed Ashby
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Google Dr Ed Ashby 2013 Pope & Young Convention and there is a multi-part video series (on Youtube) of Dr Ed demonstrating various arrow aspects. He does the soda straw demo and a few other eye openers.
Well worth watching.
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I've seen it but this was easier to see for people right away.... not have to listen to the whole seminars
Droptine85.mt
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Very very interesting. I guess I need to order some 150 grain field tips and try next to my 125. Very intriguing indeed.
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There are other things besides the FOC/trajectory demo in the P&Y seminar.
I think its important to look at all the aspects in conjunction that influence penetration.
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What is your FOC and what heads are you shooting?
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Droptine85.mt
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I haven’t had the penetration issue, but I wanted a setup to shoot the quartering to angle on Midwest bucks so I also shoot 74 pounds and 528 grains. Probably going a shade heavier if my tests prove to be the same findings as this video.
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Kurt
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Well boys, I've been at this a while but the pieces are falling together. What you see is nearly the finished product. It's 31 3/8ths total length, 250 spine@ 9.8 gr per inch Victory VAP, sporting the masai 200gr single bevel, the Ethics 180gr stainless insert/footer combo, and weighing in at 680gr with an FoC of 21%. I shoot a 70# 27" draw Bowtech Reign 6. The fool thing flies like a dart, and quiets the bow considerably. May change the fletch color, and will add a lighted nock for sure, but other than that I love it. Crappy photo but you get the idea.
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NiceWell boys, I've been at this a while but the pieces are falling together. What you see is nearly the finished product. It's 31 3/8ths total length,sporting the masai 200gr single bevel, the Ethics 180gr stainless insert/footer combo, and weighing in at 680gr with an FoC of 21%. The fool thing flies like a dart, and quiets the bow considerably. May change the fletch color, and will add a lighted nock for sure, but other than that I love it. Crappy photo but you get the idea.
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Well boys, I've been at this a while but the pieces are falling together. What you see is nearly the finished product. It's 31 3/8ths total length,sporting the masai 200gr single bevel, the Ethics 180gr stainless insert/footer combo, and weighing in at 680gr with an FoC of 21%. The fool thing flies like a dart, and quiets the bow considerably. May change the fletch color, and will add a lighted nock for sure, but other than that I love it. Crappy photo but you get the idea.
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Nice job Kurt.
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Being a total nerd, I started researching arrow stuff almost immediately after starting hunting this past season.
We, my nine year and I, learned that when we threw wooden arrows without tips, the wind would blow them like milk weed (exaggerating), but when they had a 200 grain field point on there, they flew amazing and we could "play spear" - then he tied on a bunch of different weight rocks that he fashioned into make shift spearheads... and came to me and said dad, heavier rocks are better and sometimes they actually stick in the hay bale.
I am glad I learned this early instead of floating what Ranch Fairy calls Twizzler sticks for several seasons.
The science doesn't lie
We, my nine year and I, learned that when we threw wooden arrows without tips, the wind would blow them like milk weed (exaggerating), but when they had a 200 grain field point on there, they flew amazing and we could "play spear" - then he tied on a bunch of different weight rocks that he fashioned into make shift spearheads... and came to me and said dad, heavier rocks are better and sometimes they actually stick in the hay bale.
I am glad I learned this early instead of floating what Ranch Fairy calls Twizzler sticks for several seasons.
The science doesn't lie
Gamover06
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Three things that I have done in life a lot that really made It click. Building paper airplanes. I slowly add more and more tape to the front and its pretty cool to how well it fly and seem to picks up speed (fly faster).
I also look at how darts are weighted. They are front loaded and the light plastic bar darts to not fly as straight or pound the board as hard as the darts that I threw for league.
The last is a bowling ball. Take a 8 pounder and a 15 pounder and throw them at the pins. I can get a lot more speed we the 8 pounder but you will notice once it hits the pocket it will loose its drive and get pushed around. The 15 pounder going much slower will drive through the pins a lot more. They all made me look at heavier arrow and more FOC differently. The weight is a key but the FOC also plays a big factor in helping it drive through the animal and buck the wind better.
Don't know foc ,black hornet serazors,in front of 100 grain of brass on carnivore arrows
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This information may be new to many. But written over and again within the last hundred years.
Kenitic energy has been around since before we threw rocks at things.
The anology of would you like to be hit with a softball or a wiffleball says it all.
Bow hunting is supposed to be a primitive sport.
I'll stop now before I get cut off by moderated again.
Kenitic energy has been around since before we threw rocks at things.
The anology of would you like to be hit with a softball or a wiffleball says it all.
Bow hunting is supposed to be a primitive sport.
I'll stop now before I get cut off by moderated again.
Well boys, I've been at this a while but the pieces are falling together. What you see is nearly the finished product. It's 31 3/8ths total length,sporting the masai 200gr single bevel, the Ethics 180gr stainless insert/footer combo, and weighing in at 680gr with an FoC of 21%. The fool thing flies like a dart, and quiets the bow considerably. May change the fletch color, and will add a lighted nock for sure, but other than that I love it. Crappy photo but you get the idea.
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What spine are the arrows? And this for compound or traditional?
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SnakeEater
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I just spent half the day on YouTube watching ranch fairy and Ashby learning about all this. I’m about to bump up my arrow weight. They’re only around 400gr total now and want to get into the low 500s if not more. But idk if the dozen 340 spine arrows I just got a month ago will be too weak. Thinking 100gr inserts and bumping broad heads up from 100 to 125 and letting it rip!
You'll be fine with setup.....
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Appreciate it. Not trying to go to heavy this time around. Next batch of arrows I'm going to go with a stiffer spine and heavier tip. The set up I mentioned above has a foc around 15% which is much better than I'm currently running.