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Novix tree stand!

So a question...if youre carrying something that long, if its wider than yoout shoulders does it matter?
I guess we’ll find out this fall. This Helo, and the Hush are both inside my shoulders. Hopefully that helps.

And with a rch or a saddle on, I’m tempted to pull the seat off that use the saddle/rch as my seat. That will shave 2# or more and kill the length argument. Although I never carry a treestand with the seat hanging down like that. I always run a short bungee and hold it up
 
I weighed some Lone Wolfs today, stands only, no cushions or straps. on my scales
LW 8.5 weighed 8.3 lbs.
5 year oldd Assualt II weighed 10.2 lbs.
1st gen. Alpha weighed 12.2 lbs
The Alpha had the smallest seat. I would try it on the Helo but I'm not sure it will work as it doesent have a leveler plate.
 
I weighed some Lone Wolfs today, stands only, no cushions or straps. on my scales
LW 8.5 weighed 8.3 lbs.
5 year oldd Assualt II weighed 10.2 lbs.
1st gen. Alpha weighed 12.2 lbs
The Alpha had the smallest seat. I would try it on the Helo but I'm not sure it will work as it doesent have a leveler plate.
My Helo, bare with no straps or seat weighed 8.6#. Straps and seat put me at 9.4#

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I weighed some Lone Wolfs today, stands only, no cushions or straps. on my scales
LW 8.5 weighed 8.3 lbs.
5 year oldd Assualt II weighed 10.2 lbs.
1st gen. Alpha weighed 12.2 lbs
The Alpha had the smallest seat. I would try it on the Helo but I'm not sure it will work as it doesent have a leveler plate.
My windwalker is under 6 with strap. Not comparing apples to apples here...just saying I think they could have done better...
 
I'm 5.4 and I can carry my Assault 2 with seat down with 3 32 in LW sticks flat and have no problem.Screenshot_20210711-082605_Gallery.jpg
 
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My windwalker is under 6 with strap. Not comparing apples to apples here...just saying I think they could have done better...
I really don’t see why the seat has to be so big. They could find a way to shave weight right there.

And certainly not apples to apples. The lack of level on that stands eliminates it from consideration for me
 
I really don’t see why the seat has to be so big. They could find a way to shave weight right there.

And certainly not apples to apples. The lack of level on that stands eliminates it from consideration for me

Just cut a few rungs out of the seat structure


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I really don’t see why the seat has to be so big. They could find a way to shave weight right there.

And certainly not apples to apples. The lack of level on that stands eliminates it from consideration for me

Seems like they didn’t want to spend the money on a new seat mold. Message the beast see if they will sell a beast seat.
 
Seems like they didn’t want to spend the money on a new seat mold. Message the beast see if they will sell a beast seat.
I don’t know that they will sell them separate. Might be worth a try but at what cost?

speaking of beast gear. I’m surprised you bought one after all your posts I’ve read.
 
I don’t understand that argument. Are you only 3 feet tall?
That's not my point...I'm like 6'4". Ever buy a backpacking pack? A good one....Like a Dana designs. MR, osprey? Hell any well designed pack? None of them allow the load to go more than maybe 2" past your waist belt. There's a reason for that. Efficiency and maneuverability being 2 of them. A heavier stand correctly distributed over your back will cary "lighter" than a lighter one which sits low. Now a light stand that sits high...feels like nothing...
 
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I'm 5'4 and the seat down hits the back of my legs & feet going down hill or down a creek bank. I'm switching over to the Novix minis and the LWCG minis w/ aiders to prevent it. I carry Lone Wolf sticks stacked, like pictured. There is a place make in the Lone Wolf stands just for this as pictured. But hooking 2 sticks on each side of the satnd and the seat up will give me a place for my small backpack. Backpack has to hang on one side of the sticks when stacked and just doent work very well. i would have perfered a smaller seat also. Hopefuly that will be an option soon!!
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Are you guys honestly finding these cast / machined seats more comfortable than a properly fit saddle?
 
I have hunted a long time and carried a lot of junk around many miles during those early years, like a lot of people I also worry about stand weight, but I’m a firm believer whats more important is having a system that packs well, doesn’t rattle or loosen up during the trek in, and is easy to do in the dark and under all types of weather conditions, if it happens to be the lightest well that’s just a bonus, I also believe in having one kick ass system and pounding the heck out of it all season instead constantly changing and repacking different items, during the mid season push all that nonsense is just a distraction, I’m focused on the task at hand trying to locate and kill good bucks, whatever a person settles on hunt it hard and get to know it before season. This year for me that system is going to be the .5 with 4 mini sticks, and the biggest reason is because the way it all packs together so nice, after season if it sucks I will make changes as needed.
 
Are you guys honestly finding these cast / machined seats more comfortable than a properly fit saddle?

I've been saddle hunting for about 4 years now. I setup my old XOP Vanish one time last year for an evening hunt and it was an excruciatingly uncomfortable 3 hours.

Never again. Saddle only for me from here on out. It is so much better for my lower back. I don't understand all the love for this style hang on.
 
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