Question on the alpine butterfly.
Does it require loading on the standing and working end if a load is put on the loop or can you load one with just the working end and loop?
Doesn’t require loads on both ends.
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Question on the alpine butterfly.
Does it require loading on the standing and working end if a load is put on the loop or can you load one with just the working end and loop?
That's what I thought but wasn't sure and here's why I asked.Doesn’t require loads on both ends.
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That's what I thought but wasn't sure and here's why I asked.
Further messing around with various tree diameters in the yard, my 25' of base anchor rope could be either too long or too short. That led me back to thinking about my 50' of Resc-Tech but I'd never (never say never) need that length of base anchor rope plus my 50' of climbing rope. However, tying in an AB at whatever length I need is doable and allows for a custom length rope for any tree or height.
Process:
Using a throwline or preset, pull the climbing rope up standing end first,
Once the full length of that rope is pulled out of the bag, connect the base anchor rope to the rigging ring,
Continue pulling the climbing rope until a few feet of the standing end are on the ground,
Take the base anchor rope bag and pass it around the trunk 3-4 times,
Tie an alpine butterfly in the standing end of the base anchor rope and link that to the working end of the base anchor rope.
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I went to REI to get my hands on some Petzl gear and was pleasantly surprised at how light weight and compact the GRI GRI, Micro traxion, and Hand ascender was. I am really having a hard time justifying not going with one or more of these items as my primary climbing tools. The alternative is the rope runner in combination of a friction hitch or simple friction hitches by themselves. Someone give me your thoughts to help me pull the trigger on some of this stuff.
How does the Garda hitch do on single ropes? What diameters have you used. This did cross my mind as well.I have a lot of experience with a Petzl left hand ascender with a foot loop tied to it and also a carabiner at the top of it as a redirect for my MadRock Safeguard. Having said that, I’m switching to Michoacán as my ascender and a JRB style Garda hitch foot loop. It’s quieter and for some reason, it’s actually easier for me. So, four carabiners and some hitch cord would be my suggestion to start.
How does the Garda hitch do on single ropes? What diameters have you used. This did cross my mind as well.
Hey man. I just saw this thread, as I truly can't keep up with all the correspondence I have going in different places, but I wanted to take a moment and reply to your questions... just trying to help, because i have gone thru all of this in my own climbing journey. i spent 12 years improving my MRS/DdRT system before deciding to incorporate some SRT, and from the two, the JRB system was conceived. Now, I can't find a reason to use MRS or SRT. But let me share what I know about SRT.Some starter questions I have in mind are about anchors. A recent thread discussing the pros and cons of another method of rope climbing (the JRB Method) discussed the benefits of a basal anchor which SRT climbers can use. I too was able to see the benefits of using a basal anchor in a situation where your throwball goes up and over or around several limbs before reaching the limb you want to climb. Having it anchored to the trunk of the tree, from what I understand, allows you to climb the rope that is hanging over the single limb you want to climb without having to fish your throw ball/rope perfectly over that single limb without going around other limbs.
The next thing I'd like to talk about is friction hitches, rope wrenchs, and other progress capture devices. I am curious about the different configurations y'all have tried and liked and also configurations you tried and didn't like. Feel free to share what hitches, devices, and combinations you have used. I have read a lot of positive things about SRT RADS / YOYO but I am not sure if that is the route I want to go. I am almost tempted to go a more friction hitch route, but not sure the exact set up I would go with at this time. I have climbing MRS (dDRT?) using a blakes hitch and foot loop on an ascender so my initial though go toward making something like that work.
- How many of you have had situations where you used a basal anchor?
- How have you tied your basal anchor? Running bowling w/ yosemite follow through is one I see a lot or do you use a tether/lanyard specific to anchoring.
- Do you ever include a butterfly knot in you anchor for rescue? My thought would be it doesn't really hurt anything or add much to the system so you might as well?
- Have you ever been busted because of your basal anchor i.e. deer smelling your rope at the base of the tree? My thought is that you could increase the height of your anchor but that would likely out weigh the benefits of the self rescue and might not even help much at all.
What you're describing is exactly how I would SRT climb before SRT. But I need to show ya something that's even better than a Michoacán... and note that Michoacán IS my favorite friction hitch. I will get ya a video this weekend and post it on this thread.Well, I think I am going with a hybrid SRS/JRB technique this year and not using any mechanical devices. Basically climbing a single strand with a Michoacán and rapelling with a Michoacán and a Munter hitch. I did try Platinum with my Safeguard and it was too jerky for my liking. I was liking the Platinum with some old 8mm accessory cord (Michoacán) until I tried Rescue Tech with Sterling 5.9mm Power Cord (also Michoacán). That is my favorite so far because it is smooth and light and not bulky.
The Platinum will probably last for decades, though. You can just tell it’s quality. If they made it in 8 mm, I would never look for another rope.
What you're describing is exactly how I would SRT climb before SRT. But I need to show ya something that's even better than a Michoacán... and note that Michoacán IS my favorite friction hitch. I will get ya a video this weekend and post it on this thread.
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I just filmed a video in one take. I will upload it as soon as I can. But it will probably be posted tomorrow cuz tonight is booked. I will reply here as soon as it is uploaded. I don't know you or the other guys in here of course. But when a fellow climber and fellow Hunter has a question and I can help, it really motivates me to go into my toy box in show what I have learned. It's a really cool use of social media and brotherly love. I'm from Philly, and that's what Philadelphia is supposed to mean. We just don't see enough of it these days. CheersI am very interested in that. Is it the FB group page or is it something you haven’t shown before?
Here you go brother. You motivated me to get this done today. I am probably going to make this a separate post in here... I really think a lot of people will benefit from it.I am very interested in that. Is it the FB group page or is it something you haven’t shown before?
Here you go brother. You motivated me to get this done today. I am probably going to make this a separate post in here... I really think a lot of people will benefit from it.
This will surprise you because its a large ratio, but on 8mm Oplux, I prefer Sterling standard 7mm utility cord and i use a 6 wrap Michoacán. That statement holds whether your building a double meech, or a Michoacán loop as i use in my JRB climbing system. Something i have not done yet, and will be trying is to see if i prefer replacing my upper/primary friction loops in the JRB Climbing System with a double meech on each side.For 8mm Oplux think 6 feet of 6mm Sterling TRC should work. Any other 6mm accessory cord?