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Why don't yall 2TC?

I'm curious how many of you prefer to have the foot loop strapped to your foot and how many like it to be unattached to your foot.
I like it unattached but I also have questionable hips and knees. Being attached, I'm fighting my leg when advancing the foot loop. This is different from SRT which is attached to my foot since the ascender helps pull my leg up.
 
Yep. Connect your tether to your bridge. Tie a bowline in one end of the linemans belt (foot loop) and girth hitch the other end around the tree. This is the bare minimalist approach. Other things make stuff easier but isn't required to climb.
While I completely agree in concept to the minimalist approach (I mean hey, it's me here!), the one addition I would suggest in the gear you mention is a foot loop attached to the "lineman's belt" with some sort of prusik (go with a schwabisch). The adjustability one gets from being able to quickly slide the foot loop higher or lower on your foot tether can mean the difference in having a really frustrating climb or an enjoyable one. Accidentally shimmy your foot tether too high on the tree? No problem... slide your foot loop up the foot tether with your prusik!
 
Yep. Connect your tether to your bridge. Tie a bowline in one end of the linemans belt (foot loop) and girth hitch the other end around the tree. This is the bare minimalist approach. Other things make stuff easier but isn't required to climb.
I will try this and report back, thanks.
 
I'm curious how many of you prefer to have the foot loop strapped to your foot and how many like it to be unattached to your foot.
Unattached for me. Attached only leaves me trying to hoist my leg up with the strength of my arms. Always seemed pretty counterintuitive.
 
Unattached for me. Attached only leaves me trying to hoist my leg up with the strength of my arms. Always seemed pretty counterintuitive.
Any trouble getting your foot securely back into the loop each time?
I kinda envision the loop laying in such a way that its fumbly to get the foot fully inserted. I've seen guys have a similar struggle with some aiders...aider lays against the tree and they can only get the very tip of the boot in.
 
Any trouble getting your foot securely back into the loop each time?
I kinda envision the loop laying in such a way that its fumbly to get the foot fully inserted. I've seen guys have a similar struggle with some aiders...aider lays against the tree and they can only get the very tip of the boot in.
Not really. My personal for loop is a Sterling hollowblock. Doesn't feel very good on the bridge of the foot of standing for a long time, but I have found that it does stay open due to the rigidity of the material and the block braid.
 
I just had it set in one position and moved the top tether up when I stepped up on the bottom tether. Then sat back down in the top. When I got ready to come down, I took off the bottom tether, moved the twist tie thing at the top (can't remember the name of it) and rappelled down. Don't take any of this as the way to do it. It is just the way I did it and it may be totally wrong.
Just to clarify, for accent did you clip the bridge into figure8 ?
Which knot was used to keep the other fig8 end securely?


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While I completely agree in concept to the minimalist approach (I mean hey, it's me here!), the one addition I would suggest in the gear you mention is a foot loop attached to the "lineman's belt" with some sort of prusik (go with a schwabisch). The adjustability one gets from being able to quickly slide the foot loop higher or lower on your foot tether can mean the difference in having a really frustrating climb or an enjoyable one. Accidentally shimmy your foot tether too high on the tree? No problem... slide your foot loop up the foot tether with your prusik!
Agreed. Since both tethers are setup identical, I use a kong duck in place of your prusik but same concept. The point I was trying to make was that while you can add these conveniences, they're not necessary.

Still looking forward to this spring to try out another poster's use of a prusik and their foot loop to pass a limb.
 
Just to clarify, for accent did you clip the bridge into figure8 ?
Which knot was used to keep the other fig8 end securely?


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I was clipped into the carabiner that passed though the figure 8 and the Distel hitch above the figure 8 on the top tether. The Distel was my backup for the figure 8 and also was just like having a prussic, etc on a regular tether. The Figure 8 was my control device and the Distel above it was the backup. If at any time my hand slipped off the figure 8 the Distel would stop me.
 
I'm curious how many of you prefer to have the foot loop strapped to your foot and how many like it to be unattached to your foot.
I like having it attached with a small elastic so I know I can always put that foot down and trust it. When I didn't have a elastic I put my weight on the foot 2 separate times and just fell out of the foot loop and "uncomfortably "fell back" into my saddle.
 
I'm curious how many of you prefer to have the foot loop strapped to your foot and how many like it to be unattached to your foot.
Attached for me, my foot loop is just 1" ratchet strap I made into a foot loop and it has no stay open to it. When it does try to come off my foot I struggle to get back into it and I certainly wouldn't want to fight it every move.

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Take this as constructive criticism as we're always learning a new, better way from others but, K.I.S.S.

Unlike other climbing methods, 2TC is simple and minimalist. Before adding the complexities of mechanicals, using a rappel line as a tether, sewing who knows what or anything else, just take your tether and linemans belt out and try it. Try it out several times, giving you the chance to figure it out. Once you figure it out, then you can add the complications that may make it easier for you.
Ok, just got through trying it bare bones and it is doable. I did add the foot loop Red Beard suggested after standing on just the tether. The tether put a lot of pressure on my foot. I do like the idea of the rappel down since it seems to take about half the work out of it and I really like the idea of rappelling out if it were the end of the day, I was tired, and it was pitch dark.
 
I gave it a try today and I had some issues. I climbed a tree, with ruff bark, that didn't help.
I also climbed on the high side since there was a branch about 10 foot up on the low side. With gravity pulling me into the tree it did no go well. What should I have done differently?
Knee pads would of helped some, but I had difficulty getting my foot back into the loop.
 
I gave it a try today and I had some issues. I climbed a tree, with ruff bark, that didn't help.
I also climbed on the high side since there was a branch about 10 foot up on the low side. With gravity pulling me into the tree it did no go well. What should I have done differently?
Knee pads would of helped some, but I had difficulty getting my foot back into the loop.
Try with a wide footloop with a elastic to keep it on your boot. You might like it better when you dont have to find the foothold each step.
 
Try with a wide footloop with a elastic to keep it on your boot. You might like it better when you dont have to find the foothold each step.
I have a foot loop from CGM with a strap.
The question is how do you climb a tree like the one I mentioned above.
 
I have a foot loop from CGM with a strap.
The question is how do you climb a tree like the one I mentioned above.
As long as the lean is gentle, I stick to the low side, cant fight gravity. You can know If you're in the wrong tree that is the tree is leaning too much when your foot does not contact the tree. If you can't support your body weight on your foot on the low side of a leaning tree choose a different tree.
 
So there is a branch on the low side of the tree. So if I understand you, this is a nonclimable tree.
 
So there is a branch on the low side of the tree. So if I understand you, this is a nonclimable tree.
Well if it's a big branch, then yes it takes alot more effort and energy, as well as noise, to go around a branch sticking out directly on the low side. It's still possible though if that tree is important to be in. Just make sure you only 2TC it once, then leave a preset cord to SRT/JRB next time!
 
As long as the lean is gentle, I stick to the low side, cant fight gravity. You can know If you're in the wrong tree that is the tree is leaning too much when your foot does not contact the tree. If you can't support your body weight on your foot on the low side of a leaning tree choose a different tree.
That's funny. I would have given the opposite advice. :D I climb the high side of a tree when it leans. Leaning back hard into your system, much like one would lean back into a lineman's belt, will give stability during your climb.
 
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