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Delaware public land trail camera ban

Robert loper said:
Im glad i learned a long long time ago to kill bucks the hard or old school way without cameras, without you tube, without gps apps, etc. lol. They are all nice and make it a bit easier. Lmao
I use trail cameras because I enjoy being in the woods and they really are a good intel thing to use.
if they outlaw them. So be it. I will pick right back up where i was before them.
Probably be a-lot easier lol.
I don't rely anything on my trail cameras other than i know from season past if bucks are using an area at a specific time of the season.
My main thing i do is probably scouting until i find the sign in an area thats worth hunting.
if it is skeptical sign i keep moving and if i don't find sign worth hunting over i head back to the truck right before dark.
I never hunt just to hunt. I hunt because i know there is a pretty good chance of an encounter.
if guys started implementing this theory into how they hunt , “especially mobile hunters” would benefit them tremendously.
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Same here. I do love the things, but I prefer the simpler times.
 
Conflicted, I enjoy using them but people are so stupid and ruin everything good. Cell cams cross a line of fair chase in the general public's eyes, rightfully so. Hunters should have been better about self-limiting their use applications and this is why we cannot have nice things.
 
Been Illegal on MO state lands for years but people still use them. Also Illegal to profiting off public land via filming hunts or selling moral mushrooms but people will do all three.
 
kbetts said:
Same here. I do love the things, but I prefer the simpler times.
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I agree
I enjoy the footage and being able to try to pattern a certain buck by using them but, you know as well as I do there is more than one way to kill deer
Hope you are good my friend I have not been able to get down to the house in awhile, been so dam busy. stay in touch bro
 
Robert loper said:
Im glad i learned a long long time ago to kill bucks the hard or old school way without cameras, without you tube, without gps apps, etc. lol. They are all nice and make it a bit easier. Lmao
I use trail cameras because I enjoy being in the woods and they really are a good intel thing to use.
if they outlaw them. So be it. I will pick right back up where i was before them.
Probably be a-lot easier lol.
I don't rely anything on my trail cameras other than i know from season past if bucks are using an area at a specific time of the season.
My main thing i do is probably scouting until i find the sign in an area thats worth hunting.
if it is skeptical sign i keep moving and if i don't find sign worth hunting over i head back to the truck right before dark.
I never hunt just to hunt. I hunt because i know there is a pretty good chance of an encounter.
if guys started implementing this theory into how they hunt , “especially mobile hunters” would benefit them tremendously.
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Good point about mobile hunters and mobile hunting philosophy. I took a different path than most of my hunting friends years ago by going mobile while they were becoming more and more sedentary in their hunting style. They favored fixed locations, bait piles and better and better-quality trail cameras, to the point their cameras send them pictures of deer at work, and they haul butt out to try and kill them. I guess that is why I tend to not use cameras much. I do still have a few and slap them up over remote primary scrapes and creek crossings and let them soak for months.

I think you will see more and more states banning them. Especially states that have a tendency to get into their citizens business. I do feel that if there is going to be a ban then it needs to just be statewide, public and private. All or nothing. No need to penalize one section of the populace and favor another.
 
Weldabeast said:
U wanna tell a man what he can and can't do on his own private property?
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On the blush of it no, but if you think about it the state already does this. They tell you when you can hunt, when you have to stop, how many and what type of deer you can shoot. They tell you that you have to stop hunting at sundown. They tell you if you can or cannot use bait. They tell you if spotlighting is legal or not. There are 100 things they mandate by law that effects both public and private land hunting already.
 
In my honest opinion
I moved to Delaware 5 years ago and we ended up moving back to our home town. Its not cheaper believe me It is not they get you in other ways and spots.
My opinion of the state is I love most of the locals who were born and raised there they were some of the best and nicest people I have ever dealt with or met until you get near the beach lmao.
With that said, I love Delaware from about Milton or Prime hook North And anywhere away from Lewes, or Rehoboth beach and all south along the shore all the and past OC Maryland.
Its a lot of super rich smug folks who think HOA groups is some iron fist law system that rules everyone lol
The hunting is great but the problem is the development of the state is out of control and, I do believe the farms are being bought up so fast that it most likely will not hold the quality of bucks that it holds now for any longer than ten or so years. Delaware is and always have had great bucks.
Farms are being bought up for development purposes daily. The roads going in and out of the beach areas in all directions already can not keep up.
My point Is I do believe Delaware eventually wants mostly LIke (South Jersey) retired or 2nd home folks that want services and do not mind paying huge dollars to get them. Hunting is going to be there but will most likely be very concentrated and very much limited and controlled.
They have already started to regulate in a lot of areas where you can hunt and also how you can hunt. I used to hunt a spot called wolf neck in Sussex county that's part of the cape Henlopen state park. That place has deer tripping over themselves but, Its controlled and you can only hunt in specific spots from wooden deer stands that Inmates from the Georgetown prison built for this purpose.
Controlled area hunts is growing and is just what a lot of States want. Laugh and disagree if you want but in a lot of places in our country this writing is I believe on the wall.
 
I really enjoy trail cams - buck pics help inspire me and using the cams to find locations where bucks are commonly active during daylight hours is extremely useful. However, use of trail cameras has become excessive. I know some serious hunters that have as many as 100 cameras out. I also know some casual hunters that have a dozen cameras out and only hunt 3-5 days a year, at most - and rarely have success. So if I have to give up using trail cams so that we can return to a reality where the woods weren’t full of watchful eyes, I’d be fine with that. Heck, in my state it wouldn’t be terrible if trail cams were also banned on private land - except where permission was granted by the landowner.
 
Weldabeast said:
U wanna tell a man what he can and can't do on his own private property?
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Its like baiting in Delaware Public land baiting is outlawed but, private can dump truckloads of whatever and kill deer standing in it lmao
Note please I am a huge anti bait public land guy and I used to do alot of baiting in the early 90's when i first started to hunt. lol
Private property baiting should be up to the owner and who the hell am I to tell someone they cant do something on thier own property
 
Here are a few gems I found just in the past several months. All on public. It's illegal to put out mineral on public, and anyone found hunting over or near minerals could get busted for baiting. So any given day out there I never know fully what I am getting myself into. Game laws have a very low burden of proof. Then you get into the spot-claiming aspect, guys use them with the same mentality of treestands that they [wrongly] think it reserves their spot.

If I could go back and take photos of all I've found over the years it would be dozens. But it really seems to be accelerating lately because of course guys take the easy button.

So in summary, four strikes against cameras on public:
1) Fair chase issues, specifically with cell cams, whether factual or perceived, can't argue that perception matters with the nonhunting public
2) Conflict between hunters that have spot reservation mentality.
3) Encourages illegal bait and mineral placement
4) Invasion of privacy
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NMSbowhunter said:
On the blush of it no, but if you think about it the state already does this. They tell you when you can hunt, when you have to stop, how many and what type of deer you can shoot. They tell you that you have to stop hunting at sundown. They tell you if you can or cannot use bait. They tell you if spotlighting is legal or not. There are 100 things they mandate by law that effects both public and private land hunting already.
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All that's true.... May as well impose some other silly new rule on land owners then.
 
Robert loper said:
Its like baiting in Delaware Public land baiting is outlawed but, private can dump truckloads of whatever and kill deer standing in it lmao
Note please I am a huge anti bait public land guy and I used to do alot of baiting in the early 90's when i first started to hunt. lol
Private property baiting should be up to the owner and who the hell am I to tell someone they cant do something on thier own property
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I get the argument, but what about the season dates and bag limits. Should it be OK for a private landowner to decide when the season starts on their own property and decide if they want to kill 3 or 103 deer this season? My feeling is that if the state is going to have game laws, the laws need to apply equally to all hunters regardless of whether they own land or not. Otherwise, you create a different class of citizen.
 
I am glad to see it. What bothers me is a guy with alot of money can put out 100 cameras on a piece of public. Scout 24/365.
Should the guy with the most money win?
 
NMSbowhunter said:
I get the argument, but what about the season dates and bag limits. Should it be OK for a private landowner to decide when the season starts on their own property and decide if they want to kill 3 or 103 deer this season? My feeling is that if the state is going to have game laws, the laws need to apply equally to all hunters regardless of whether they own land or not. Otherwise, you create a different class of citizen.
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We have a nice private piece that we can shoot deer from August 15th until May 15th.
Doesn't mean we do.
 
kbetts said:
Usually, it's the guy with the most time. The $ guys are the lazy ones.
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Agreed, I’ve always viewed hunting as a poor man’s sport. Growing up we hunted bc we were poor, granted I know how expensive it can be nowadays depending on gear and whatnot but yeah, I can verify as I’m sure most can, the guy with the most time wins every time. These days I have money it’s not an option but the main driver of how many deer I kill is how much time I put into it has nothing to do with money spent.
 
The_Fit_Ness_Monster said:
Agreed, I’ve always viewed hunting as a poor man’s sport. Growing up we hunted bc we were poor, granted I know how expensive it can be nowadays depending on gear and whatnot but yeah, I can verify as I’m sure most can, the guy with the most time wins every time. These days I have money it’s not an option but the main driver of how many deer I kill is how much time I put into it has nothing to do with money spent.
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Except that if all a guy wants to do is have a 160 or better buck to plaster all over Farcebook he can get it done in one weekend at a high fence outfitter if he wants to spend $$$$. He can always make up a good story of how hard he hunted it to go along with the pictures.
 
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