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Why don't yall 2TC?

I have been giving 2tc climbing a try...I liked it just need to practice more as it seemed I had to make more moves than one sticking to get to the same height plus it seems more of a workout hahah. Also it seemed easier to climb a bigger tree than one sticking that had some leaning in the first 8 feet or so
 
I’ll admit that I’ve fallen behind and have not read all 3k+ replies…. But I’m going to give 2TC a fair shake in the off season.

I plan on going back to a hang on (Beast or LWCG) because I find it easier with my trad bow, but I’m curious if anyone is using this method with a stand and what your experience has been.

I despise packing and unpacking sticks for whatever reason, but I love a good hang on, so a hang on and 2TC may be the ticket for me.


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I would think it would work with a hang on. Just substitute a hang on for a platform or a ring of steps. You would need to iron out all the minor differences, but it should be doable. When you start trying 2tc, just try the simplest version first and get that hang of that. My advice is keep it simple. Learn the moves. Try it low and slow.
 
I’ll admit that I’ve fallen behind and have not read all 3k+ replies…. But I’m going to give 2TC a fair shake in the off season.

I plan on going back to a hang on (Beast or LWCG) because I find it easier with my trad bow, but I’m curious if anyone is using this method with a stand and what your experience has been.

I despise packing and unpacking sticks for whatever reason, but I love a good hang on, so a hang on and 2TC may be the ticket for me.


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I have tethered climbed all this season with a .75 and RCH and it has worked great. Switched to a loc on for the same reasons as you. Definitely wouldn’t let using a loc on keep you from trying it.
 
I have been giving 2tc climbing a try...I liked it just need to practice more as it seemed I had to make more moves than one sticking to get to the same height plus it seems more of a workout hahah. Also it seemed easier to climb a bigger tree than one sticking that had some leaning in the first 8 feet or so
After doing 2tc for a couple of seasons I really think it is a great way to climb for hunting if you have the right trees for it. You will make more moves than 1 sticking but once you find the right height move for you (I really think this boils down to your individual step distance. The length from your foot to your knee is generally a good rule of thumb.) it will all become very fluid and smooth. The biggest problems I had starting out was first trying to make it more complicated than it needed to be, and second trying to maximize height in the moves.
 
What were the over complicated things you were doing?
Using a long rope and trying to rappel with the top tether. It added a whole other level of complexity to the setup. I also was sewing a web foot loop and using a cord hitch on the foot loop. My suggestion is to use a very simple rope set up to learn on. This is what I ended up with after much use and still use to this day. The beauty of 2tc is its utter simplicity. Once you get it you got it.
 

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Using a long rope and trying to rappel with the top tether. It added a whole other level of complexity to the setup. I also was sewing a web foot loop and using a cord hitch on the foot loop. My suggestion is to use a very simple rope set up to learn on. This is what I ended up with after much use and still use to this day. The beauty of 2tc is its utter simplicity. Once you get it you got it.
I also use this setup except for the fixed loops to go around the tree, I’ve now switched to the Better Tether Hitch for going around the tree, once you have to pass a couple limbs with that setup you will love it! Quick, simple and don’t have to run the entire setup through the loop while climbing, don’t even have to disconnect my carabiner from my bridge! Really like the Blake’s hitch footloop for sure!!!!! One of the great things about this site is the creativity of the guys on here! God Bless!
 
I’ve see a lot of people complaining about 2TC because of limbs over the past couple years. Anyone who has any experience with 2TC knows limbs are quite easy and safe to go around, but I’m curious how often all of us actually need to go around a limb? This depends heavily on what type of ecosystem you hunt, but I don’t find myself having to go around limbs very often if at all. I can’t remember the last limb I had to go around in two seasons of hunting using 2TC. I climb to between 18-24ft regularly. How many climbs a year do y’all have to bypass limbs to be in the perfect tree?
 
I’ve see a lot of people complaining about 2TC because of limbs over the past couple years. Anyone who has any experience with 2TC knows limbs are quite easy and safe to go around, but I’m curious how often all of us actually need to go around a limb? This depends heavily on what type of ecosystem you hunt, but I don’t find myself having to go around limbs very often if at all. I can’t remember the last limb I had to go around in two seasons of hunting using 2TC. I climb to between 18-24ft regularly. How many climbs a year do y’all have to bypass limbs to be in the perfect tree?
I bypass a limb almost 50-75% of my climbs. There tends to be a sizeable branch or limb between 15-20 feet that I wind up passing
 
I’ve see a lot of people complaining about 2TC because of limbs over the past couple years. Anyone who has any experience with 2TC knows limbs are quite easy and safe to go around, but I’m curious how often all of us actually need to go around a limb? This depends heavily on what type of ecosystem you hunt, but I don’t find myself having to go around limbs very often if at all. I can’t remember the last limb I had to go around in two seasons of hunting using 2TC. I climb to between 18-24ft regularly. How many climbs a year do y’all have to bypass limbs to be in the perfect tree?
This season, prolly close to 40% of the trees I climbed had 1 or more limbs to deal with. The worst one had a lot of small limbs(12-15) in the first 8-10 feet and then was a clean trunk up to about 27 feet. I one sticked it the first trip up and used a carabineer on my rappel rope until I was clear of the low limbs, then tied a running jrb. Hung my stand and rope climbed with a foot loop the rest of the hunts from that tree. Last tree I climbed had 3 limbs before I was at hunting height. That was on private so those limbs got removed on the way up.
 
Y’all got a picture of the trees y’all climb so I can get a better idea what you’re working with. What diameter trees are these? What type of tree? The trees I climb I usually don’t run into a large limbs until 20+ ft. Any small branches around an inch or less get tucked down or cut off.

If I had to bypass limbs 50% of the time I would be using a carabiner for my tether connection or a soft shackle type method like what seekbigger shared.
 
I’ve see a lot of people complaining about 2TC because of limbs over the past couple years. Anyone who has any experience with 2TC knows limbs are quite easy and safe to go around, but I’m curious how often all of us actually need to go around a limb? This depends heavily on what type of ecosystem you hunt, but I don’t find myself having to go around limbs very often if at all. I can’t remember the last limb I had to go around in two seasons of hunting using 2TC. I climb to between 18-24ft regularly. How many climbs a year do y’all have to bypass limbs to be in the perfect tree?
Also, when ppl mention limb passing as a turn off....I ask them, how do you safely do it now? You need 2 tethers or a lineman's belt and a tether to safely pass a limb when you have no preset or safety line so.....
The answer is that some just "hold on" while they move their tether or LB up over the branch!
 
Also, when ppl mention limb passing as a turn off....I ask them, how do you safely do it now? You need 2 tethers or a lineman's belt and a tether to safely pass a limb when you have no preset or safety line so.....
The answer is that some just "hold on" while they move their tether or LB up over the branch!
Yea that one is a non starter for me. Same type people saying you can’t 2TC because of limbs also claim that a climber is their favorite climbing method lol Limbs are only a negative when you’re 2TC lol.
 
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@gcr0003 this a pre-set stand but a decent example of some of the types of trees I find myself in at times every year.


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@gcr0003 this a pre-set stand but a decent example of some of the types of trees I find myself in at times every year.


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What’s your current method for climbing this? What was your method to climb it the first time?
 
Y’all got a picture of the trees y’all climb so I can get a better idea what you’re working with. What diameter trees are these? What type of tree? The trees I climb I usually don’t run into a large limbs until 20+ ft. Any small branches around an inch or less get tucked down or cut off.

If I had to bypass limbs 50% of the time I would be using a carabiner for my tether connection or a soft shackle type method like what seekbigger shared.
I do not have any pictures currently, but they are mostly white oaks with a few red oaks mixed in, basketball size or larger generally. Anything thumb size or smaller gets bent or snapped off, but there is usually one limb or branch that is bigger that needs to be by passed.
The soft shackle by seekbigger has got my wheels turning to either copy that for next season or devise a system that works similarly without the need for extra hitch cord
 
What’s your current method for climbing this? What was your method to climb it the first time?
That tree has a set of sticks on it so other guys that hunt at the farm could use it. For me, I would have most likely one sticked up, set the stand and then rope climbed on subsequent sits. I can climb 2TC but am not what I would call really proficient at it yet. Have done it just enough to be able to use it if needed but I am primarily a one sticker. If the mods I make to the Lone Walker stand I built work so I can climb with it I will have the option to either carry it or the mission and nothing else other than ropes. I plan to work a good bit on 2TC climbing though because then I can leave either stand in the tree and 2TC rather than rope climb. Climbing the rope works fine but I get hot and sweaty fast and I think 2TC will be a little better in that regard.
 
@BTaylor how do you go around limbs while one sticking? Do you use a lineman’s and move the tether up and around or simple move the tether up and the limb and keep going?
 
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