100%.Water proof breathable is an oxy moron.air goes through water goes through.
“Windproof” is what leads to “waterproof”.
This is one of the things I learned from John Eberhart that I really think is on the money.
100%.Water proof breathable is an oxy moron.air goes through water goes through.
Reviews say it’s 2.5 layer Gore Tex with a water proof rating of 28000mm/24hr. It’s the only jacket I’ve found close to those specs with pit zips for around $100.The maybe not so good: Not trying to bust your bubble but would like to give you some realistic expectations. In my experience, single layer goretex is barely waterproof for more than a short duration in light to medium rain. So don’t be surprised if you get some dampness if sitting for hours in the rain. That said I would be surprised if this isn’t a fair bit better than the cabelas space suit. If you want true water proof for hours from a goretex jacket you need to get Into the 2-3 layer goretex. It’s not a hard and fast rule but when leaning heavily on DWR treatments it’s part of what you deal with.
The good: There are some even more expensive jackets that don’t include pit zips (wild) so that is a nice feature at that price. If it does better than I expect then that is be fair deal.
Please stand out in the next rain storm for 2+ hours and report back! Wait, I already have an expensive rain jacket. As you were.
Additional side bar: one problem with my rain jacket is that I’m scared to wear it through the woods for fear of ripping and tearing it on the plethora of privet, thorns, and greenbriar. I bought one jacket that I use for all of my camping, hunting, hiking, skiing, etc. and I want it to last so I end up using my cabelas stuff and still being super careful not to rip it either. Both pack down extremely small which is great. The KUIU Yukon jacket I tried is tough and can handle thorns and brush as well as rain but is heavier, louder, and doesn’t pack down well at all.
Dang I didn’t see that on the other page. Sweet find! That is very tempting!Reviews say it’s 2.5 layer Gore Tex with a water proof rating of 28000mm/24hr. It’s the only jacket I’ve found close to those specs with pit zips for around $100.
This is more a hiking/everyday/occasional hunting use rain coat anyway. If I’m ever lucky enough to ever make it to AK or somewhere I need a series rain coat I’ll up my budget then.
How’s the fit on this one? Pack down too?https://gritroutdoors.com/rivers-west-pioneer-widow-maker-jacket-5138-wmrkThis is the one I got not the Stalker.
Dang I didn’t see that on the other page. Sweet find! That is very tempting!
What’s the word? L or XL LOLI almost didn’t post it until I was sure I didn’t need to return the L for an XL. Afraid I would get screwed by the Saddlehunter affect.
Umbrella and old Army poncho.Buy the cheapest you’re willing to accept and toss on some camo over it.
Me? I use a tree umbrella. I don’t own ANY camo rain gear.
The fit is regular or average, not tight and not super loose either. It specifically is made to fold and roll into its hood. I can get it down to about the size of two large grapefruit side by side if not slightly smaller.How’s the fit on this one? Pack down too?
What size did you get? That doesn’t look as short as the pics on the website made it look. How noisy is it?Marmot Goretex Jacket I just picked up and the Black Diamond one i already had. I give the edge to the Black Diamond for features I.e. two zippers on the pit zip, pit zip being longer, hood having a semi rigid visor, being quieter, and being slightly longer. I’m sure the marmot jacket will keep me plenty dry which is the most important. I may use the Marmot as a ski shell as it is a tad more roomy. Also asking myself why I bought two rain jackets… wife is asking the same lolView attachment 99137View attachment 99138
I only have 7...Marmot Goretex Jacket I just picked up and the Black Diamond one i already had. I give the edge to the Black Diamond for features I.e. two zippers on the pit zip, pit zip being longer, hood having a semi rigid visor, being quieter, and being slightly longer. I’m sure the marmot jacket will keep me plenty dry which is the most important. I may use the Marmot as a ski shell as it is a tad more roomy. Also asking myself why I bought two rain jackets… wife is asking the same lolView attachment 99137View attachment 99138